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Month 2:17, Week 3:2 (Shanee/Matzah), Year:Day 5940:46 AM
2Exodus 3/40, Yovel - Year 50/50, Omer Count - Shabbat #4
Gregorian Calendar: Monday 23 May 2016
Masturbation
Vision of Spiritual Realities

    MATURE READING
    Not suitable reading material for those
    who have not reached the age of majority,
    are unmarried or are impressionable

    Introduction

    I have to apologise in advance for what I am about to share, knowing it will offend some, so if you are upset by any kind of discussion on matters sexual, please read no further. This is what I was shown and so I make no apology for it, because people need to know what reality is and to judge rightly (Jn.7:24).

    THE VISION

    On the 15th day of the 2nd month (21 May 2016) in the early hours of the morning I was shown a vision which revealed in its starkness the spiritual realities behind masturbation or sexual self-stimulation (SSS). This was not solicited by prayer and came quite unexpectedly during the Great Shaking in which Yahweh is revealing to mankind, prior to the Judgments of Yahweh which has begun, and in particular, sexual sin.

    Marked by Demon's Seed

    I was shocked and sickened by what was shown me. I saw a man who was engaging in sexual self-stimulation but I could not see what he was doing in the physical, as this was veiled from me. However I could see exactly what was transpiring in the spiritual. The man, unbeknown to himself, was actually masturbating a demon in the invisible dimension, and when the demon released its vile seed (which was a dirty yellow colour), the man turned the demon's progenerative organ toward his own, thus receiving a kind of perverse 'baptism'. I saw, then, that the energy from the demon's seed that he had thus obtained by making some kind of spiritual or psychic contact with, was what defined, coloured or marked the spiritual nature or substance of his own physical response, thus defiling him and giving the demon power over this part of himself. He was marked.

    Self-Justification

    The man had no idea, of course, that any of this was going on, absorbed as he was entirely with his own unclean thoughts and physical activity. Moreover, I was aware that he had convinced himself, by way of self-justification, that what he was doing, and had done, was harmless and a safe way to release tension when in reality the opposite was true. This was, and is, the same spirit of auto-homosexuality (or auto-lesbianism in the case of a woman performing the parallel act) that we in this ministry have spoken of in connection with deliverance. Masturbation is not harmless as it retunes the psyche to a demonic wavelength.

    The Kinsey Corruption of Society

    In an age where there are now no longer any societal taboos against masturbation as once obtained in my youth, this act is now openly encouraged and even taught to minors in state schools as 'normal' and 'fun'. Thanks to perverts and pseudo-scientists like Alfred C. Kinsey (probably a satanist and certainly an Illuminist), who argued for the 'normalisation' of sexual perversion having conducted many criminal experiments on children, self-abuse (like masturbation) is regarded as inconsequential for human well-being [1]. It isn't.

    Seek Purity

    The Remnant cannot have any part of impurity. If masturbation has such dire consequences on the spiritual plane, you can barely imagine the feast of the demonic that takes plave when adultery (especially), fornication and abberant/deviant sexual acts take place. You can pretent all you want that it is otherwise, but if your ambition and hope is to be a part of the Remnant, and so receive a genuine anointing of the Ruach haQodesh (Holy Spirit) and not be deceived by counterfeit spirits as the Body of Messiah generally most certainly is, then you must pursue holiness and purity with passion, not yielding any of your spiritual turf to the Enemy. Sex is only for the marriage bed (as defined by Scripture) which must itself be kept pure (Heb.13:4). If you have sexual issues like masturbation, know that Yah'shua (Jesus) is all-powerful and can cure all of these so long as you are willing to relinquish them and trust Him.

    Conclusion

    Freedom from bondage is yours if you choose to trust and to obey Messiah. Choose it today, loose all the chains that keep you bound, by emunah (faith and faithfulness) in Yah'shua (Jesus) and stay out of temptation's reach:

      "Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the emunah (faith)" (1 Peter 5:8-9, NIV).

    P.S. If this article makes you angry or listless, you may need to urgently take a close prayerful look inside.

    Endnotes

    [1] See Susan Brinkman, The Kinsey Corruption: An Exposé on the Most Influential 'Scientist' of Our Time (Ascension Press, West Chester, PA: 2004) and Judith A. Reisman, Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences, 3rd edition (Institute for Media Education, Crestwood, Kentucky: 2003)

    Further Reading

    [1] Understanding the Roots of Pornography Addiction with many useful links
    [2] The NCAY Sex, Romance and Marriage website
    [3] The NCAY Deliverance from Demons website

    Comments from Readers

    [1] The following is a Facebook discussion on the article:


    KS: Those who do not, or ever will, have sexual release can just die from prostate cancer (proven to occur in men who do not have regular release, as toxins build up over time causing carcinogenic DNA changes), physical and hormonal imbalances, psychological problems, lustful thoughts due to build up of desire for release (spiritually damaging), depression or anxiety, high blood pressure and associative stroke, suicidal thoughts, and premature death.

    All medically and psychologically proven for generations now.

    Scriptures only deal with improper sexual conduct BETWEEN two people. Adultery, fornication, incest, homosexuality, etc. And the REASON is because the rules are to protect the human gene pool from becoming defiled.

    Masturbation has absolutely nothing to do with interpersonal genetic/DNA exchange which would affect the human gene pool. Nor does it fit with scripturally prohibited interpersonal sexual conduct [in] the least...

    My study of scriptures has NEVER revealed any instruction ... pro or con ... on masturbation. Even poor Onan who was stricken dead for spilling his semen on the ground had NOTHING to do with it being spilled on the ground, but rather disobedience against the directive to procreate with the woman for fulfillment of a purposeful requirement. Instead, he withdrew right at the time of emission of his seed. Those who use it out of context to strike unreasonable fear into those who privately release their sexual urges alone are absolutely twisted in their perversions of scriptures to support their own scripturally unsupported doctrines.

    Scriptures are concerned about INTERPERSONAL sex. Sex between two people. It had to do with preservation of the genetic pool of the human race, protecting us from genetic collisions, defilement and degeneration as a species. Further...

    Science is now discovering that a woman's DNA stores memories of the DNA of every man she has slept with. Also...

    Science has been looking into why homosexuals get autoimmune disorders. They have found there is a natural immunosuppressant substance in male fluids which are meant to prevent a woman's immune system from killing the sperm vaginally. If the fluid is absorbed in another man's body via rectal walls, it suppresses the entire immune system of the male recipient partner.

    As we see in both cases, it becomes detrimental to human beings when not limited to one woman and a man in marital union, loyal to one another. This is the sole reason for the scriptural rules relating to human sexual conduct. It was meant for our protection as a species ... our Crestor's crowning achievement.

    Nowhere is solo sexual release mentioned, as it isn't an interpersonal form of union in which two spirits also unite as one on union during sexual sharing together, where the spark of light within touches the spark of light within the other and they become ECHAD (One).

    I do agree masturbation to pornography, or vivid imaginary visualization of a living person during the act will inject lust into the equation, in which it then becomes a biblical sin to be concerned about. Otherwise, the mere act of a man or woman self-pleasuring to keep from committing actual interpersonal sexual sin has no scriptural prohibition anywhere in writing.

    Lastly, all the sexual fearmongering by religious zealots tend to do the opposite of their sermon intentions, sparking a "dare" into the hearts of people who then rebel and do it MORE out of inquiry to prove or disprove for themselves. Leading to self-exploration lol

    I will never say whether I personally do, or do not. It is private information meant to remain private from public inquiry or knowledge. One thing is for certain, however, and that is my choices aren't influenced by the teachings of men.

    If scriptures say "ok", then ok! If they say "no way", then no way! If they mention nothing at all, simply refrain from doing anything the rest of scriptures say which would make the "procedure" sinful (visualizing sex act with an office worker, schoolmate, pornography, etc. The 'solo act' would certainly cross into lustful sin at that point.

    "Otherwise, no harm, no foul. Scriptures indicate no harm or foul. As a matter of fact, if a man goes long enough without release, he will experience a sex act in his dream which his own mind and body FORCE on him, and he will awaken with damp sheets. Because... the body is not meant to withhold beyond a specific duration and takes care of the problem VERY erotically whether you wanted it or not...

    I am not even going to give you (another commentator - Ed.), or anyone else even an eighth of an inch toward argument on this topic. I am making this my last post from my perspective. I know I don't have to argue to support my position, as it is rock-solid for myself which is all that matters anymore.

    Not being mean-spirited. I have just finally learned that no matter who a person is... laity or accomplished scholar with a decade or more of education, one indisputable fact exists:

    Everyone will eventually reach his/her own conclusion on a matter. Likewise, there will ALWAYS be someone who disagrees with another's conclusion. Everyone's conclusion is specially tailored by themselves, for themselves, and only for themselves. For as many verses that are in the bible, there will always be an equally great number of 'differently colored interpretations and divisions' (KS, USA, 24 May 2016)


    WS: Now, show in the scripture of YHWH's word, the prohibition of, of . . . Well, you know, uhmm . . .SSS, the big M. Is this in your mind, or in the scripture of God's Word? Where in the Bible does it say not to have lustful thoughts? Ok, let's look at it.

    We want to know what not to do, when YHWH says, "Lo Na^'aph"--
    Exo 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.H5003
    Adultery H5003
    na^'aph
    naw-af'

    A primitive root; to commit adultery; figuratively to apostatize
    [Now, look at this-these are not part of the definition, but renderings in the KJV] : - adulterer (-ess), commit (-ing) adultery, woman that breaketh wedlock.

    (Strong's Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries by James Strong, S.T.D., LL.D., 1890.)

    *The word means-well, adultery. We let the scripture define "adultery".

    *Adultery is something that a man does with another man's wife--
    Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

    *The basic poison of adultery is the wife who takes strangers instead of her husband--
    Eze 16:32 But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

    --It looks like the wife who takes a stranger instead of her husband, and the stranger she takes, are both guilty of adultery to the same degree.

    That's IT, other than the figurative passages.

    Notice that the law concerning Adultery outlines a PATRIARCHAL order, where it is the woman straying that constitutes adultery. It's the basis for an earthly wife taking the name of her earthly husband, and not the husband taking the name of his wife. Inheritance is handed down through the Patriarchs. It hardly has anything to do with the spiritual Kingdom of God, and eternal life other than the figurative Israel and Judah straying from YHWH.

    Sorry, I didn't write this. It's not MY book. I just study the scripture, and share what I find.

    YAHOSHUA'S TEACHING OF REPENTANCE (THINKING DIFFERENTLY)--

    *it's adultery for a man to set his heart upon a MARRIED woman--
    Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery (Lo Na^'aph-a man with another man's wife)
    Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after (epithumeo?--set his heart upon) her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

    This is not Adultery--
    Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

    KJV+
    Mat 5:28 ButG1161 IG1473 sayG3004 unto you,G5213 ThatG3754 whosoeverG3956 lookethG991 on a womanG1135 to lustG1937 after herG846 hath committed adulteryG3431 with herG846 alreadyG2235 inG1722 hisG848 heart.G2588

    In the Strong's Lexicon--
    to lustG1937
    epithumeo?
    ep-ee-thoo-meh'-o

    From G1909 and G2372; to set the heart upon, that is, long for (rightfully or otherwise)

    Where, in the descriptive terms of the definition does it say anything about sexual thoughts? Look again.

    Here are other contexts for epithumeo?--
    Mat 13:17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired (epithumeo?) to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

    Luk 15:16 And he would fain (epithumeo?) have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.

    1Ti 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth (epithumeo?) a good work.

    It's not what we've been taught, is it?

    So, it's not adultery for a man to desire a woman--
    Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave (daw^bak-take by pursuit) unto his wife(ishaw-a woman): and they shall be one flesh.

    But, it IS adultery for a man to set his heart upon a MARRIED woman.
    "Lo Naw^af"

    David had at least 18 wives, and at least 10 concubines. He never committed adultery until he took another man's wife, Bathsheba.

    Wadaminit. We were talking about mastication (sic), right? Sorry, I don't have any study of the scripture about masturbation, fellatio, cunnilingus, anal sex, etc..


    KS: So the question is, is someone considered a homosexual for any other sexual contact other than one receiving the other man's seed which is what happens when a man has sex with a woman??

    This is really uncharted territory actually. There is a LOT to all of this. Very important.


    WS: I observe that Leviticus talks about near of kin relationships in terms of uncovering nakedness, and not in terms of marriage covenants.

    Search the scriptures for the marriage Covenant.


    KS: Even near of kin who married were bound by a woman getting only one husband, while the husband could have many wives. The seed of two men is prohibited from entering one woman, as THAT is where genetic problems occur generations later.

    It is all about the genetic separation of one man's seed from another's with one woman. There is something VERY important about this genetically.


    WS: Sorry, y'all. KS didn't write this stuff. He's just sharing the truth.

    This is not church doctrine. It's just raw Bible study.

    The generic stuff is science, right?

    CCMW (NCAY): Actually, that is a logical fallacy. If what you (KS) say is true, then chimpanzees are ~98% in Yahweh's image since their DNA is ~98% similar to the DNA of human beings. Do we then see Yahweh's image in monkeys...barring 2%?

    Somewhere along the line an assumption is being made that DNA contains ALL human information, above and beyond coding for mere biochemicals, which is a naturalist's presupposition that I (as a Biochemist, incidentally) reject. The physics of energy fields (and by extension, the Ruach/Spirit) and their transmission in seed, is a field that secular scientists know nothing about. As a leading professor from my homw University, Oxfordm has admitted, we don't even know how the brain works yet.

    I wanted to inject that here before I give my full reply to the questions raised above, to remind people that Science cannot be Truth in anything beyond the material dimenion and that it has very definine limits, plus scientific conclusions, that once seemed set in stone, are constantly being overturned.


    KS: Ok, so you feel science doesn't truly understand everything. I believe you are correct. You also state science has had to backtrack on many things they thought was true.

    So then, WHAT in the HAYELL are they genetically modifying everything for then with TRANSGENIC biotechnology, taking desired genes out of one species and putting them in entirely unrelated species ... then putting it all into the wild and on farms all around the world to end up as our food?

    They should be barred from applying science until they know for sure.

    You mention science is limited to the material. You make the argument, as an educated scientist yourself (material only then) that they don't understand much outside of that material realm.

    I was involved deeply in metaphysical sciences and exploration all through my 20s and halfway through my 30s. Since no universities offer even a BS in metaphysical sciences, I have no diploma or certificate.

    But I tell you this... I know far more about the spiritual realms than even your most accomplished religious scholar in the way of experience. There are many entities who are loyal to El Elyon, sympathetic to the cause of man. Then there are the ones who are truly out to destroy man and all other living things out of spite. Jealous that the Creator would dare put his little clay beings to favoritism over them.

    My day is spent. As much as I would like to stay up conversing with you, have to sleep for work in the morning. It is 1:30 am in this part of the globe (the earth IS a globe, scientifically, right?) grin emoticon

    Will visit more later


    DP (NCAY): One of the major things to consider when it comes to masturbation though is that is impossible to engage in it without having our mind and emotions engaged as well. Have you ever known someone be able to truly masturbate (especially to the point of release) with only physical stimulus, without any kind of imagination, memory, image or desire feeding into it?

    How many men and women, either in the context of damaged relationships or sexual abuse, can tell you that even though they were being touched in ways that could (or should) have been pleasurable, they felt little pleasure (or even felt repulsed, horrified), because their emotions played a huge role in their desires, pleasure and response?

    So a huge part of the question of masturbation as sin connects back to what is driving those images and desires. Are you lusting or engaging sexually with that person in your mind and thoughts (your hand standing in as 'proxy' for their body) for someone YHWH has not given you in covenant? If so, you * are* committing either adultery (if they are married and belong to another person) or fornication (if they are not). Either way, you *are * engaging mentally and emotionally in a form of coveting and theft - trying to take ownership (or if you are a woman, receive) a person that is not legally yours, that YHWH has not given to you.

    (If you are engaging in pornography, you are filling your mind and feeding your desires with other people's sexual sins, as most of it is fornication promoting varying depths of sexual sin / uncleaness. I realise some people advocate using pornography made of married couples, but when you engage in that, you are trespassing on marriage bed where you have no right to engage - that belongs to the marriage covenant members alone.)

    On a different level, I know many people use masturbation as a comfort, when they are lonely or sad or hurting inside - hoping some of the momentary pleasure might distract them from the emptiness and pain. But when we do that, we are asking masturbation to be a Saviour to us - to save us from the brokeness and loneliness that we are struggling with inside, and it can never deliver that. That is making it an idol and we need to be able to see that and choose to seek YHSH to heal and fill those needs inside.

    When YHWH created man and woman, with the gift of sexuality He also gave the commission / commandment (and picture) to be * fruitful*. YHWH gave sexuality as a gift for husband and wives to be able to be joined together intimately, to experience and display a degree of the deep mystery of YHSH and the Bride - not only Their intimacy, but also how His filling His Bride brings them both growing longing, pleasure and fullfillment, and conceives * life* in His Bride.

    And ultimately, masturbation is an excellent picture of carnal man (or woman) in their sin - driven by their own desires and imaginations, trying to please and exalt themselves by their own hand (deeds / actions / achievement), but ultimately, even if that hoped for momentary 'high' is reached... there won't and can't be any fruit afterwards. The 'man' has spent himself for nothing, the 'woman' is still, ultimately, left empty.

    Is there any form of godly or acceptable masturbation (like possibly when a widower or widow remembers and misses their spouses, or a husband wants to improve his self-control so he can bring his wife more pleasure, or for a truly medicinal need) ? That I cannot say. But overwhelmingly, I think the testimony for most is that their masturbation has not brought them closer to Yahweh (and made them more like YHSH), but rather has been a stumbling stone to them. Way too many people (if they would be willing to be that vulnerable with you) would admit that they are slaves to masturbation, wishing they could be free from it. I do believe a HUGE amount of the reasons people actually masturbate go back to hurts and spaces that need to be healed and filled by YHSH. May YHWH help us to be able to see them and have those needs met by YHSH, and how to also point other


    KS: If the same Creator wants to throw me in the eternal lake of fire for being a human being with limitations, who refused to suffer with what the hormones HE PUT IN ME do to me, getting in my way of living, then so be it. I wouldn't want to spend eternity with a Creator who prohibits the functionality and drive HE HIMSELF PUT THERE, to be satisfied or otherwise kept at bay.

    Oh did he EVER make a mistake creating a sexual physical race. Big, big, BIG mistake. Now he will have to fry 99.999% of humanity because they couldn't handle the power of the DRIVE.

    Poor bastards.. all of us.


    AB (NCAY): He also gave us not only the desire to eat, but the need to eat. So does that mean we throw self control out the window and over eat or fill our bodies with food that is harmful? No, we also use the boundaries He has established for our health, seeing how we are the temple of the Ruach, we should therefore treat our bodies as such. The same with our sexual life. Is it a sin to be overweight? Will we go to hell because we are obese? No, however we will be limited in most all aspects of our life, physical and spiritual. I would dare say that most who masturbate, when finished are left with an empty feeling inside, because that deeper need is not fulfilled because it is something that is to be experienced within marriage with our partner. This is how Yahweh has designed it. Will it send us to hell? No, but is that really the most important question? I think the better question is - Will it bring us closer to HIM? Do we really want to live our lives testing what we can and cannot get by with? Or do we want to live our lives in complete abandon to His will and heart for us, trusting that whatever needs we have HE will fulfill. Are we willing to wait and trust that HE will work all things to our good? Is one moment of guilty, unfulfilled pleasure worth missing out on His perfect will for our lives?


    KS: Guess I won't be able to share pill bottle pix. Lupron is injected intramuscularly. So be it... injections it is...


    DP (NCAY): You know brother, being belittling to others who have no conviction yet that your reasoning is correct or that what you are saying is true doesn't help make your case. You come across as arrogant and self-invested, more concerned about proving yourself 'right' and others ignorant rather than truly concerned for the truth and for others wellbeing, to build them up in Christ... and if anything, that attitude may push people away from some of the truths you might truly have and be trying to share with them / reason with them about.

    If anything, the Scriptures encourage you to reason and state your case with gentleness, kindness and meekness, reasoning with patience and self-control, praying that Yahweh would convict others of what is true ( rather than trying to 'bash them with insults' until they yield to your stance), and being careful in humility lest you yourself be tempted or sin.

    "Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression [ or error], you who are spiritual should restore him *in a spirit of gentleness*. * Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted*. Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. For if anyone thinks he is something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. But let each one test his own work, and then his reason to boast will be in himself alone and not in his neighbor." (Gal 6:1-4)

    "So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart. Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. And the Lord's servant * must not be quarrelsome* but * kind* to everyone,able to teach, *patiently enduring evil* , *correcting his opponents with gentleness [ meekness ]*. Elohim (God) may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will." (2 Timothy 22-26)

    "Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom. But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast and be false to the truth.This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual,demonic. For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice. But the wisdom from above is first pure, then * peaceable*, * gentle*, *open to reason*, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere. And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace." (James 3:13-18)

    "But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; * yet do it with gentleness and - respect -- * , having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame. For it is better to suffer for doing good, if that should be God's will, than for doing evil." (1 Peter 3:15-17)


    SP (NCAY): There is an important point to be gracious with people over...people were created to be in a loving, marital relationship before sex. The reason being that we ARE sexual beings, but there has to be a right place for that sexuality. The problem today is absolutely that there are LOTS of instances where this isn't the case...either through non marital relations, fooling around, rape, sexual abuse, molestation as a child. The point being, that we ARE created to have sex and to enjoy it, and there is very often a need for it when it has been practiced/awakened/exposed. What DO we do when a person has been in a sexual relations and carries those desires, but doesn't have the right place to practice them? We don't exactly live in a culture where sexually charged men can just trade a donkey for a wife and wola, problem over. Neither are we in the Christian culture where people practice "It's better to marry than to burn in lust"...instead people are now forbidding to marry, women especially, and it's leaving men hanging!

    But I understand the whole point about masterbation being wrong...it creates wrongful images of women making them nothing more than sexual icons to be used, it promotes the usage of pornography, it can very easily become an addiction, it can be driven by unclean desires. But, for single, unmarried people who have a need, I guess a healthy balance can never go amiss? Especially if it's a bigger problem not doing it, than doing it lol.


    CCMW (NCAY): Castration is forbidden in Torah. This whole discussion has by and large revolved around the centrality of physical impulses and the claim implied that a man cannot control himself. No spiritually regenerated and Messiah-controlled Christian/Messianic believes he cannot overcome in Messiah. Why? Because someone surrendered to Messiah is an overcomer - naturally, without strife. The ground issue is not how many moles of prostaglandins or testosterone you have in your blood stream but to whom you actually belong, not just propositionally, but in terms of spiritual reality and power. If you're 'burning' and can't control yourself, for whatever reason, you are commanded to marry. If you can't find a spouse then maybe it's time to look in the mirror and consider that there might be some bona fide spiritual issues that need resolving OR consider the possibility that you are both called to celibacy for a time and with a purpose AND, if that is true, that the challenge is fully surrendering your will to Elohim.

    The kinds of excuse that are being made here are identical in substance to a whole whose of other sin issues, one of which Avah mentioned.

    As for not being allowed to remarry or burning in hell, these are not views I hold, since I don't believe the Catholic view of hell (http://nccg.org/hell.html) and I don't believe we are forbidden to remarry unless we are guilty of adultery.


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