Hello, Christopher!
Greetings from the city of Sofia in Bulgaria!
Thank you, I know the city well.
Greetings from a Bulgarian Latter-day Saint. I have been such for 9
years now and I love being such.
I find some of the things in your web site interesting. I have now
spent more than three hours reading it. I understand there is much more
to read. However, there is a proverb saying that you need not drink a
whole sea to know that it is salty.
Quite true. I imagine that is what many would say about Mormonism.
Even though I do not claim to have a permanent gift of prophecy(though in a
few cases the Lord has blessed me with revelations which turned out to
be true much to my amazement), I would like to share with you my
feelings about what is in your page and about you as a person. And I am
going to be frank.
I base truth not on subjective feelings but on the Word of God. I have seen supposed gifts of prophecy lead so many astray that I tread carefully with all those who claim such gifts, especially if they espouse beliefs disjunctive with the Bible revelation, as Mormonism does.
(1)You are not right about the Book of Mormon. What you have written in
the form of a revelation about it is not a revelation but an invention
of your own mind and heart. Yet, even if it is, this is not a revelation
from the Lord Jesus Christ but from another source..
That is your privilege. We are not trying to convert the world to the Olive Branch as you are to the BoM, D&C, etc.. It is a resource for those who believe in it and wish to use it. We evangelise only with the Bible.
As for the Book of Mormon, the evidence that it is not of God (apart from its plagiarisations from the Bible) is overwhelming. I site but one example:
www.nccg.org/NCMM/LDS2-2.html
(2) The Lord loves you and in fact He loves all of His children and you
have gifts; yet, you are not a prophet of God.
Again your privilege to believe what you will. I do not attempt to convince people that I am, and certainly not in the vein that Mormons understand. My mission is to convert people to Christ, not to 'prophets', and certainly not to me.
(3) You are full of pride and that will destroy you temporally and
spiritually unless you come in the depths of humility and acknowledge
to our Father in heaven that you have tried to replace the true love of
Christ (not the one professed by your lips) by your own wisdom.
With respect, pride is a problem that affects the whole human race, yourself included. And so I return your statement to you, recalling the arrogance of your prophet Joseph Smith who claimed he had done a greater work that Jesus Christ and the Apostles, his bold but false prophecies about the conversion of the United States, and so on, not to mention his outrageous claims about people living on the moon, Brigham Young's numerous false and bombasic prophecies of sun-men, about becoming US President, etc.. But I don't suppose you read the articles on the site detailing these things as I imagine they were too meaty for you.
(4) When I compare the light and joy that I experienced when I read the
testimony of Joseph Smith for the first time with the things that I
experience spiritually reading your writings I see how unatainable for
you is Joseph's spiritual endowment.
There are two kinds of light - true and false. I would never wish to have Joseph Smith's spiritual "endowment" which was from an occultic source containing a mixture of true and false light as is demonstably shown in the book at
www.nccg.org/nefilim
That you would react to ANY non-Mormon site in the way you have done is hardly surprising - don't most people react negatively (except the truly humble) when they come across things that challenge their own faith?
(5)Your great problem that may prove your separation from the celestial
glory of God and much to my regret even more than that(unless you
repent) is that you want to be a law unto yourself.
If you think that I hate you, you are wrong. I love you.
Love is demonstrated, as Christ taught, in obedience to the commandments. And whilst the Mormons no doubt obey many of them, they flagrantly disobey others and have set up a bogus priesthood as an intermediary to Christ. I seem to remember Paul saying something about love not being boastful and a number of other qualities in 1 Corinthians 13. And what bigger boast can their be when someone comes and declares that he has the whole truth and ettempts to threaten people with it into a Mormon celestial kingdom?
If you think I do not understand you, you are wrong again because I have
also had a pride similar to yours but I thank God that He chastised me
and is still chastising me so that I could repent.
I doubt if any two strangers could possibly claim to understand one another. I certainly know little or nothing about you (apart from the evident lack of humility in your writing) and, inspite of what you may have read in my sermons and articles, I doubt you have very little idea about who I am.
My plea to you is to come back to the true fold which is The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
I'm sorry, but I regard the Mormon Church as a counterfeit. I could never return to the darkness which it is, any more than Paul could have returned to the Talmudic Judaism which fell off him like a used rag once he had discovered the riches of Christ.
The species called the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" isn't remotely like the Assembly that exists in apostolic times. In structure, substance and giftedness is is radically different. It follows a false Sabbath, ingores the Torah by celebrating pagan festivals, claims a priesthood (Aaronic) that the Book of Hebrews says is permently extinct, claims a High Priesthood which likewise ended at the cross, claims human intermediaries between Christ and man (likewise abolished), admits proven false scripture, has mutilated the Bible like the Jehovah's Witnesses, is polytheistic contrary to the Shema, denies the Priesthood of all Believers, places prophets higher than apostles (contrary to the NT Church), has 15 apostles instead of 12, lacks many of the spiritual gifts (like tongues), allows limited abortion (child murder), claims bogus keys, tithes惺nstead of living the United Order (and thus condemns itself by its own revelations in the D&C), has dishonestly mutilated its own histories and revelations, its prophets, seers and revelators neither prophesy, see visions or have revelations, blasphemously regards Christ and Lucifer as "spirit brothers" - indeed, teaches so many false things that it would require a whole website to expose it.
And, as years of debating with Mormons has repetedly shown, when Mormons cannot answer legitimate objections to their religion from the Bible or proven history, they either ATTACK THE BIBLE or engage in CHARACTER ASSASSINATION, just as you have done.
Mormonism lacks all the fundamental bases of integrity and is friendly only when you agree with it.
But as a Christian I am able to hold fellowship with other believers even if we do not agree on every interpretation BECAUSE OUR FELLOWSHIP IS BASED ON MUTUAL RESPECT, NOT PATRONISING INSULT.
and use your gifts to furthering the
work of the Lord instead of trying to use them for a work of your own
which has not been approved of God and, if you sincerely think it is,
you have been deceived.
My work has certainly not been approved of the fallen Nephilim angels which lead Mormonism's founding. As to whether God has approved me or anyone else, for that matter, only the final Judgment will establish that for sure.
Thanks to the baptism of fire and of the Holy Ghost I can discern.
I hear people from almost every religion on the face of the earth making that claim. That is subjective and entirely untestable except against the Bible. And your teachings do not pass the biblical test, demonstrating that your discernment is false.
I can see that you are very hardened in basic
errors even though you claim to be a true disciple of Christ.
And do you not think that others could not say the same to you? But the trouble is, Mr. M, your basis of discernment is not the Word of God that was delivered to the first apostles but your own subjective feelings or "discernment".
Yet I say
to you what I can say and finish with the words of the apostle:
"Knowledge puffeth up but charity edifieth."
You're right, but then there are two kinds of knowledge, aren't there? And who's to say that your own truth propositions aren't based on false knowledge such as Joseph Smith's contrdictory and embellished Sacred Grove experience.
Your friend (even though you may disbelieve it) wishing you a safe return
to the true fold.
Friendship is not based on pre-conditions such as you have laid out, something that almost no Mormon seems to understand. Friendship is accepting a person as they are and simply loving them by showing deeds of charity. Once it becomes conditional upon espousing a certain belief structure or doing certain things, then it becomes bondage. And that, praise God, I have escaped forever.
Not once did you cite Scripture except to reprove in order to bolster your own position and belief structure. Not once did you imitate the approved Berean method, You came arrogantly with a cudgel which you called the "truth", just like the Jehovah's Witnesses and all cultists do, and pretended to be a loving friend. I feel sorry for you, that you have such a poor perception of some of the simplest and most basic human virtues. And that is because your religion is based not on attraction (as Jesus's is), but on coercision. "Come to us, or else".
I would not wish to help rebuild the monster in sheep's clothing that the Mormon Church is for all the salt in your proverbial sea. That there are good people in the Mormon Church I know for a fact for the Lord showed me so in vision when I was briefly a member of that institution,
www.nccg.org/NCMM/LDS3-1.html
You have shown me not the slightest bit of respect, and certainly no friendship, only a patronising spirit from which I have escaped in order to breathe the freedom of Christ's good spiritual air. The few Mormons who I do count as my friends are nothing like you.
May the Lord lead you to His freedom and to the unspotted waters of the Ruach haQodesh.
In His freedom
Christopher C. Warren
