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    FAQ 36
    The Omer Count
    Does It Disprove the Luni-Solar Calendar?

    Q.

    A. An error made by both Judaism and most messianics, who uncritically accept the interpretation of the Rabbis, is the belief that you only count 50 days after the start of Yom haBikkurim or the Feast of Firstfruits for the Omer Count and that Shavu'ot or Weeks (literally 'sevens', not 'Pentecost' which is an erroneous Greek word) falls the day after the seventh of the sabbaths contained within those 50 days based on the solar recokoning of weeks invented by the Rabbis. But that is to fundamentally twist the meaning of Leviticus 23:16 which cannot possibly be saying this. These are the reasons why:

    • 1. A careful chronology of the Exodus shows that Yahweh instituted Shavu'ot through Moses on the 29th day of the fourth month (around July or August) - see The True Shavu'ot Count;

    • 2. A wrong reading of the key passage of Leviticus 23:15-16: "And you shall count for yourselves from the day after the Sabbath (Aviv 16, Yom haBikkurim), from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering: seven Sabbaths shall be completed (A). Count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath (B); then you shall offer a new grain offering to Yahweh" (Lev.23:15-16, NKJV).

      There are two parts to the count:

        1. Marking off 7 sabbaths from Yom haBikkurim (A); and then
        2. Counting 50 days after the 7th of those 7 sabbaths (B).

      The mistake that is made is that most Jews and Messianics assume that (A) and (B) are the same count when they are two consecutive counts - 7 sabbaths + 50 days! As a result they observe Shavu'ot in the spring instead of at the harvest in the summer. Add to that the fact that nearly all Jews and Messianics follow the Roman Calendar when it comes to the sabbath and arbitrarily place Yom haBikkurim on a Roman Sunday so as not to clash with a Roman Saturday 'sabbath' and you have a second counting error - the Bible is plain: Yom haBikkurim is always on Aviv 16, the day after the Aviv 15 which is always a creation sabbath! - see The Sacred Number 50: Make Sure You Observe the Right Shavu'ot!

    • 3. A mere 50 days from Yom haBikkurim is too short a season for harvesting the spring wheat and it isn't the winter wheat. The true count of between 102 and 104 days (an average of 103 days, depending on the timing of the New Moon at Rosh Chodesh) coincides correctly with this harvest - see The Wrong Shavu'ot: The Winter Wheat Error Exposed

    • 4. A calculation of Paul's journey from Asia Minor at Yom haBikkurim to Jerusalem to attend Shavu'ot proves that he took much longer to make the journey than 50 days - see Paul's Shavu'ot Journey: Proof That the Biblical Omer Count is More Than 50 Days

    The thesis that luni-solar sabbatarians have got the calndar wrong is without any sort of substance and indeed we have conclusively proved with the required Torah two or three witnesses (in fact, four) that the Creation Calendar is correct. The evidence is so overwhelming that it is impossible to refute by any other means other than to point out that 'these people' or 'those' observed the sabbaths and festivals by some other method, and either 'these' or 'those' couldn't possibly have got it wrong because they were (and still allegedly are) 'in authority'. It doesn't matter how many people have followed the traditions of the Talmudists if they are wrong - emet (truth) is not established by the consensus but by the Torah even if that is a minority position amongst contemporary believers.

    Further Reading

    [1] Various articles on Shavu'ot
    [2] Wrong Pentecost! Shavu'ot is Not in May or June
    [3] Shavu'ot 2013: Waiting for the Great Hinge of Change
    [4] Shavu'ot 2012: The Double Pentecost Truth

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