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    unexpected verification of the 7 Ruachs

    Posted by Yaacov on October 12, 2008 at 8:44am
    in Patriarchinity

    Just came across this in the RSTNE, v. 15 in particular:

    Malachi 2:13-16
    13 And this have you done again, covering the altar of
    YHWH with tears, with weeping, and with crying, so that He
    regards not the offering any more, or receives it with good
    will from your hand.
    14 Yet you say, Why? Because YHWH has been a witness
    between you and the wife of your youth, against whom
    you have dealt treacherously: yet she is your companion,
    and the wife of your Covenenat.
    15 And did not He make them echad? And the rest of the
    Ruachim are His also.*
    And why Echad? That he might
    seek a zera (seed) from Elohim.

    Therefore take heed to your
    ruach, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of
    his youth.
    16 For YHWH, the Elohim of Yisrael, says that He hates
    divorce:
    like the one who covers his sin with his
    garment, says YHWH tzevaoth: therefore guard your ruach,
    that you deal not treacherously with her.

    *Aramaic Peshitta

    What i noticed when i checked other versions, is that they are all radically different from one another.

    HRV v 15a
    "And not one has done so who had exuberance of spirit! For what seeks the one? A seed given of Elohim. "
    (I can't make any sense of that whatsoever-- typical Trimmian syntax.)

    ISRV v 15a
    "And did He not make one? And He had the remnant of the Spirit? And what is the one alone? He seeks a seed of Elohim."

    KJV v 15a
    "And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. "

    Douhy-Reims v 15a
    "Did not one make her, and she is the residue of his spirit? And what doth one seek, but the seed of God?"

    NIV v 15a
    "Has not [the LORD] made them one? In flesh and spirit they are his. And why one? Because he was seeking godly offspring."

    CJB v 15a
    "And hasn't he made [them] one [flesh] in order to have spiritual blood-relatives? For what the one [flesh] seeks is a seed form God."

    What that tells me, is that there is something in the manuscripts that is making the translators very uncomfortable-- that they are trying all different ways around it.

    So what were the other translators trying to avoid that the RSTNE intrepidly received? Admittedly the number isn't mentioned in this particular verse, but the plurality is! So in light of Zechariyah 4:10 and Gilyahna/Revelation 1:4, 3:1, 4:5, 5:6, it seems to be speaking of the 7 Ruachs!
    How?

    "And the rest of the
    Ruachim are His also
    ."

    YHWH is contrasting the gratuitous and sloppy divorce practices of the time against His eternal echadness with the 7 Ruachs. YHWH has not shunned any One of the 7 Ruachs in favor of another! Whereas the men of Malachi's time were divorcing their first wives for trivial reasons in favor of replacements. Stated another way: Abba YHWH is contrasting His eternal polygynous Union with the 7 Ruachs against the serial monogamy of Malachi's day!

    "And why Echad? That he might
    seek a zera (seed) from Elohim."

    That sounds to me like a reference to the divinity of Yahushua-- THE Seed from Elohim! So what this indicates is that All 7 of the Ruachim Echad with Abba YHWH were involved in bringing forth (deriving) Yahushua ultimately from Abba YHWH and Themselves!


    This is a fascinating discovery - excellent! Praise Yah! I have long believed that all 7 Ruachs were somehow involved in the bringing forth of Yah'shua, and this is good evidence.

    In confirmation that the Ruach is NOT 7 but just one;
    In the Wisdom of Solomon; In praise of Wisdom 7:26-27
    She is the brightness that streams from everlasting light, the flawless mirror of the active power of God and the image of his goodness. She is but one, yet can do everyything; herself unchanging, she makes all things new; age after age she enters into holy souls, and makes them God's friends and prophets, for nothing is acceptable to God but the man who makes his home with wisdom.

    Here's another way to apprehend the concept: it is not a case of either/or, but rather both/and. The first century Nazarenes believed in One Elohim Family (Father, Son, Mother) while also believing in a multiplicity of Power-Beings (Father, Son Mother(s?)).

    Likewise Jacqui, you are right that the Ruach HaQodesh is spoken of most of the time in the singular, However in Zecharyah 4:10; Gilyahna/Revelation 1:4, 3:1, 4:5, 5:6; and now Malachi 2:15 She is spoken of in the plural form. That doesn't mean that the Scriptures are in conflict with one another, but rather it means that all the passages combined together are giving you a more complete picture.

    There are things like this that occur in the physical world. For example in quantum physics, Superstring theory had 5 distinct theories but then M-theory was figured out to unify all of them.

    Here's an underlying question for an upcoming chapter that might help you grapple with The Ruach HaQodesh being 7 (I admit when i first heard of that concept I was also a bit shook up): Why are believers the temples of the Ruach HaQodesh, but not temples of Abba YHWH? Stay tuned for the answer...(it will be awhile while my brother in law tries to recover my bios-errored hard drive)

    Treasures only yield themselves to those who persistently dig. So many baffling scriptural mysteries have been solved by digging deep shafts into the dirt of the Word, and often in the most unexpected places where few bother to look. I can remember the time when I was born again hearing ALL these explanations of who "Elohim" was and getting totally baffled - it was like showing someone a dozen oranges and insisting that there was only one yet somehow there was a 'dozenness' within the imaginary single orange, when really all that needed to be conveyed is that there is only One Orange-Kind just as there is only one Elohim-Kind because there is only one Power that is Elohim and everything else is a derivative.

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