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    Archive Section II

    13
    A GERMAN THEOLOGIAN CONVERTS
    TO THE MORMON CHURCH

    by Scott Anderson & Clare Gregory

    As written by Scott Anderson in his journal

    We had an unexpected moment in the mission field. We knocked on a door and a lady said something to us we had never heard, "Come in." Now remember, I was a German missionary. This never happened to us; not even the members would say that to us. At this point suddenly this dear lady invited us in.

    My companion said, "Do you know who we are?" "You want to talk about religion, don't you?" she said. "Yes, we do" explained my companion. "Oh, come in. I've been watching you walk around the neighborhood. I'm so excited to have you here. Please come into my study." We went in and seated ourselves and she sat down behind the desk.

    She looked at us with a smile, then pointed to three PHD's hanging over her head. One in Theology, the study of religion, one in Philosophy, the study of ideas, and one in European History specializing in Christianity.

    She then kind of rubbed her hands together and said, "Do you see this row of books here?" We looked at a well arranged row of books. She then said, "I wrote them all. I'm the Theology professor at the University of Munich. I've been doing this for 41 years. I love to talk about religion. What would you like to discuss?" My inspired companion said we'd like to talk about the Book of Mormon. She said, "I don't know anything about the Book of Mormon." He said, "I know." Twenty minutes later we walked out of the room. We had handed her a Book of Mormon and this trade off that we had been on was over. I didn't see this lady again for another eight and a half weeks.

    It was in a small room filled with people (when I saw her again), as she was standing in the front dressed in white. This Theology professor at the University of Munich was well known throughout Southern Germany. She stood up in front of this small congregation of people and said, "Before I'm baptized I'd like to tell you my feelings. In Amos chapter 8:11 it says there will be a famine of the work of God. I've been in that famine for 76 years. Why do you think I have three PHD's? I've been hungering for truth and have been unable to find it. Then eight and one-half weeks ago, two boys walked into my home. I want you to know these boys are very nice and wonderful young men, but they didn't convert me. They couldn't; they don't know enough." And then she smiled and said, "but since the day they walked in my door I have read the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, all of Talmage's great writings, Evidence and Reconciliations by John A. Widtsoe and 22 other volumes of church doctrine." She then said something which I think is a challenge for every one of us here. She said, "I don't think you members know what you have."

    Then in her quiet, powerful way, she said, "After those years of studying philosophy, I picked up the D&C and read a few little verses that answered some of the greatest questions of Aristotle and Socrates! When I read those verses, I wept for four hours."

    Then she said again, "I don't think you members know what you have. Don't you understand the world is in a famine? Don't you know we are starving for what you have? I am like a starving person being led to a feast. And over these eight and one-half weeks I have been able to feast in a way I have never known possible."

    Her powerful message and her challenging question was then ended with her favorite scripture, "For you don't see the truth can make you free." She said, "these missionaries don't just carry membership in the church in their hands, they carry within their hand the power to make the atonement of Jesus Christ full force in my life. Today I'm going into the water and I'm going to make a covenant with Christ for the first time with proper authority. I've wanted to do this all my life." None of us will forget the day that she was baptized. When she got finished being baptized, she got back out and before she received the Holy Ghost, she stood and said, "Now I would like to talk about the Holy Ghost for awhile." She then gave us a wonderful talk about the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    (later in Elder Anderson's journal)

    Two young missionaries, both relatively new, (one had been out about five months, the other three weeks) accidentally knocked on the door of the seminary in Reagansburg. 125 wonderful men were studying to become priests inside. They didn't realize this was the door they had knocked on because it looked like any other door. They were invited in. In somewhat of a panic, the man said, "I am sorry we just don't have time right now." The two missionaries were relieved, but then he said, "Would you come back next Tuesday and spend two hours addressing all 125 of us and answer questions about your church?" They agreed that they would, and ran down the road screaming. They made a phone call to the mission president and cried for help. The mission president called us and said, "Do you think that dear lady that you have just brought in to the church would like to come help these two missionaries with this assignment?" I called her to explain what was to happen, and she said, "more than I would like to eat, more than I would like to sleep, more than..." I said, "Fine, you don't have to explain."

    We drove her to the seminary and as we went in, she grabbed the two missionaries that had originally been invited, put her arms around them and said, "you are wonderful, young men. Would each of you spend about two minutes bearing your testimony and then sit down and be quiet please?"

    They were grateful for their assignment. They bore their testimony and then seated themselves. Then she got up and said, "For the next 30 minutes I would like to talk to you about historical apostasy." She knew every date and fact. She had a PHD in this. She talked about everything that had been taken away from the great teachings the Savior had given, mostly organizational, in the first part of her talk. Then the next 45 minutes was doctrinal.

    She gave every point of doctrinal changes, when it happened and what had changed. By the time she was done, she looked at them and said, "In 1820 a boy walked into a grove of trees. He had been in a famine just like I have been. He knelt to pray, because he was hungry just like I have been. He saw God the Father and His Son. I know that is hard for you to believe that they could be two separate beings, but I know they are." She shared scriptures that showed that they were and then said, "I would like to talk about historical restoration of truth." She then, point by point, date by date, from the Doctrine and Covenants put back the organizational structure of Christ's church. The last 20 minutes of her talk were absolutely brilliant. She doctrinally put the truth back in place, point by point, principle by principle. When she finished this profound talk, she said, "I have been in a famine as talked about in Amos. You know that because last year I was here teaching you." For the first time, we realized that she was their Theology professor. She continued by saying, "Last year when I was teaching you, I told you that I was still in a famine. I have been led to a feast. I invite you to come." She finished with her testimony and sat down. What happened next was hard for me to understand. These 125 sincere, wonderful men stood and for the next 7 minutes, gave a standing ovation. By the time four minutes had gone by I was crying. I remember standing and looking into their eyes and seeing the tears in their eyes too. I wondered why they were applauding after the message she had given. I asked many of them later. They said,"to hear someone so unashamed of the truth, to hear someone teaching with such power, to hear someone who finally has conviction."

    The truth is what can set us free... Do we really know what we have?

    An Answer
    by Clare Gregory, NCCG Representative, USA

    This a great story. But may I just point out a few things? Mormonism is not about Jesus Christ and being saved by him. It is about religion. Those who are hungering for a "true religion" will be attracted by Mormonism's message. It's about "doctrine". It's about "theology". It's about "knowledge".

    All human beings want the LDS Church message to be true...we all want one religion that is led by prophets who are inspired, who have been "born again" and can lead us to God. Who wouldn't?

    The problem is that Mormonism sounds true, looks true, and smells true....but it's not. This woman read the "Book of Mormon" and by gaining a testimony of that book, swallowed all the rest of the message about "priesthood authority" that she was looking for. As a PHD in teaching other ministers, she wanted to be in "the right religion", the LDS Church fit the bill.

    Anyone who studies history will know Chrisitianity has moved away from the New Testament Church. Anyone can see that there was a "famine" and apostacy from the truth.

    But a 100% apostacy and 100% restoration of priesthood authority?

    No. That goes too far...that contradicts the Word of God that says Jesus would establish his Kingdom and the "gates of hell would not prevail against it". (Matt 16:19-21)

    Religions are of men and God. Salavation and eternal life is of God alone.

    This woman, with her PHDs teaching ministers about "her religion" missed the whole message of Jesus in her studies, but rather, was starving for "a religion" to fill the void in her heart. Mormonism fit that need and filled the void. Joseph Smith started the questioning and assumption that there should be a "true religion", and God let the Nephilim answer the desires of his heart.

    Too bad it's not the truth.

    In Amos, the famine in the Land was "hearing of the Word of God"...not the lack of priesthood authority. It is the lack of prophetic visions and revelation, not the priesthood. Indeed, Amos in the same book says that God will do nothing except he reveals his secrets to he servants the prophets. The NCCG has those prophetic gifts today...and the LDS Church? Well, when was the last time anyone received a first person revelation--thus saith the Lord--from the LDS prophets?

    Case closed.

    And Joseph Smith? He got it half right. He was a Saul or Solomon, not a Moses. So he got us part way to the truth, but the was diverted from the truth. Finally, the LDS lap up stories like this like honey, for it "testifies" of the truth of "Mormonism" or the "true Church". But where is the message of Jesus in any of this? Religion and priesthood become "God", and the loving Savior takes second place to theology. People fall in love with "religion" and the "true church", with all of the man-made programs, and they substitute this for the Love of God that should be in them.

    Momonism is a source of security and love, and members will find strength in their "unity of thought". But in the end, their hopes will be blasted as time reveals the priesthood is false, the temple is false, and the plan of salvation of eternal progression is false.

    In the END, ONLY JESUS CHRIST stands as God. The FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD IS IN HIM ALONE. Praise be his name!

    Clare Gregory

    This page was created on 5 May 1999
    Updated on 10 March 2001

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