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    599
    The Christian Feminist

    by Sister Alpin MacLaren

    Not every point-of-view expressed in this article is necessarily that of this ministry. For our own comments, see the end of the Article.

    Christian female pastors and priests are very common today. Many feminists call themselves "Christians" and so you may be taken aback at the title of this article. If you will open your eyes and your mind, I will show you in the following articles that there is no such thing as an intellectually honest "feminist Christian" and the driving force behind the movement to ordain female church officials is not religious at all but political.

    All information that we have on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ are in the Bible. One of the things that Jesus is quoted as saying is that the Old Testament was accurate and inspired down to the very punctuation (jot and tittle). So, either the Bible is a valid book, or Christianity is false. There is no other valid option. Therefore, if feminism is not taught in the Bible, and even further, if feminism is contradicted in the Bible, then there is no intellectually honest way that a woman could call herself, "Christian" and "feminist" at the same time. The Bible is the only source for Christian knowledge, and it therefore must be accepted in order to be honestly a Christian believer.

    So the question is now put to the Bible:

    Is feminism a biblical doctrine, or compatible with biblical doctrine?

    What happened in the Garden of Eden?

    Adam and Eve were created as perfect beings without sin. They were created separately however. First, Adam was created, and later Eve was created. The Bible states:

      "And Yahweh-Elohim said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet ["helper" NIV] for him" (Gen 2:18).

      "And Yahweh-Elohim caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which Yahweh-Elohim had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man" (Gen 2:21-23 ).

    According to these verses, woman was not made at the same time as man. She was instead made later for man. Her rôle and reason for being was to be a "help meet" or "helper" for man. This is before Eve had sinned. She was not to be a competitor with Adam or to be his equal in rôle. She was designed and built to help Adam with his aims and desires. It must be remembered that this was in the perfect world of Eden before sin entered in. If sin had not come, Adam and Eve would still be living in Eden and Eve would still be Adam's "helper."

    Next we are told that Eve sinned, and then caused Adam to sin. For this she was punished by God. After God pronounced a curse on the serpent who had deceived Eve, He continued on:

      "To the woman he said, I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you" (Gen 3:16 ).

    Adam was then cursed also with hard work and sweat until he died.

    All three of the parties involved with the fall of mankind were punished. The snake had to crawl in the dirt, the woman had to be subservient to her husband, and the man had to work hard to get enough to eat. Some have tried to claim that this was not a command of God, a curse upon mankind, but the verses are quite clear here. God commanded that man was to rule over his wife, but he would have to work hard to support her and himself.

    Now, here we have a situation where no human tradition was in place. There was no bias of hundreds or thousands of years of male dominated society influencing what transpired. We do not have imperfect men making up some rule that is slanted to suit themselves. Instead, the Old Testament, which Yah'shua (Jesus) proclaimed to be perfect down to the very punctuation, states that God Himself proclaimed that a woman was to be "ruled over" by her husband at the very beginning.

    God could have set any other arrangement that He wanted. He could have said to Adam, "OK, you want to follow your wife into trouble, from now on you will have to do whatever she says." Or He could have said, "From now on I want you both to think for yourselves and don't follow what the other says because we can see where that leads. Be equal." Instead, we see that biblically a male dominated society was dictated by God Himself because of Eve's sin.

    The feminists of today proclaim that their lot in life has been dictated by those evil creatures called men. They even go so far as to state that the Bible was written by a bunch of men who had it in for women. To disbelieve the Bible is certainly their right but it would be completely deceitful to then turn around and claim to be Christian, because without the Bible, they would not even know that Christ existed, let alone what He taught.

    At no point in the Bible is this male-dominated arrangement countermanded. Indeed, we find that this Eden story is referred to by Paul thousands of years later to support the rule of the Christian church that women were not to teach men in the church and that wives were to submit to their husbands. From start to finish, the Bible states that women are to be ruled over by their husbands.

    Paul says:

      "For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man" (1 Cor 11:8-9).

    He is not stating something new or original. As we have seen, he is just restating the facts as laid out in Genesis. Woman was made as a helper to man, not the other way around. And when Paul forbids women from teaching men or having authority over men he recalls Eden, the creation of woman as man's helper, and the fall where the woman brought sin into the world:

      "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve, And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if she continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety" (1 Tim 2:12-15).

    Here is not some new doctrine. This is as old as the first book in the Bible. Paul is merely showing support for the command of God in Genesis 3:16. Even the reference to childbearing comes from there. The feminists who call Paul a woman hater, are pointing their fingers at the wrong source for their frustration! The Bible says that God proclaimed the role of women to be in submission to their husbands way back in the Garden of Eden as the first parents were being shown the way out.

    If you look at what our society has become because of rejecting this biblical doctrine, you will realise that our progressive and modern view is destructive to women, even more than men.

    The term 'Christian Feminist' is an oxymoron because the Bible clearly, and repeatedly, in both New and Old Testaments, states that a woman is not to have authority over a man, nor be his equal in rôle. She is to be ruled over by her husband, and be submissive to him. The feminist is saying just the opposite and therefore rejects the Bible. By rejecting the Bible, she is rejecting the only source of information about Christ and His teachings. She therefore is not and cannot be a Christian.

    The Bible and the Feminist

    Since a Christian must look in the Bible to find what Christ taught, one, to be intellectually consistent and honest must accept the Bible as accurate in order to be a Christian. If the Bible is not accurate, and just a book written by a bunch of men who made it up to satisfy themselves, then Christianity is a fraud and you must reject it. There is no other honest alternative.

    With that as our starting point, let us see what the Bible says about women, men and the church. We start with instructions written to the church in Corinth, and what the role of women was to be in church services:

      "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church" (1 Corinthians 14:34-35).

    Here we see that men were to be the only instructors in church, and that even if a woman had a question about what was discussed, she was to hold her question until she got home and get the answer from her husband. Her rôle in church was to be one of sitting quietly during the service. Does this sound like there is room for women pastors, teachers or deacons? [1]

    Continuing on in the instructions to the Corinthian church, we see that the Bible states that men and women have different roles and status in relationship to the church and even the "chain of command" leading to God:

      "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God" (1 Corinthians 11:3).

    Here is clearly stated the chain of status all the way to God. God is the head of Christ. Christ is the head of the man and the man is the head of the woman. Herein is the explanation of why women do not have a role teaching in church. The body does not teach the head. The subject does not lecture the king.

      "For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man" (1 Corinthians 11:7-9).

    These statements strike right at the heart of feminist thought. Man is the glory of God, as the woman is the glory of man. The chain of status or command is consistent. Where is there room for a female pastor, when the woman is in subjection to the man and is to keep silent in church? It goes on to say that woman was specifically made for man. Man was not made for woman. Since this hearkens back to the very beginning, there is no room for change, modern thinking or enlightenment to modify it. Eve transgressed, and women are in subjection to their husbands. The Bible commands it, unequivocally. In Colossians it continues the same theme:

      "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord" (Colossians 3:18 ).

    This is not a union of two equals. Men are not the same as women, nor do they have the same rôle as women. Women are to submit themselves to their husbands in the same manner as men are to submit to God. This should give the "Christian Feminist" pause. There is no room here for their philosophy.

    Moving on to Titus we find additional instructions on the role of women:

      "That they [aged women] may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed" (Titus 2:4-5).

    Note the last phrase. If a woman does not follow the rôle spelled out here, she is blaspheming the word of God. Blasphemy! What is the rôle for older women? To teach the younger women their proper rôle. What is the rôle of the younger women? To keep house! To be obedient to their own husbands and to be chaste. A female pastor is blaspheming as soon as she takes the job! Any women who leaves her housekeeping, homemaking rôle to go into the workplace, and fails to be with her children and submit to her husband is committing blasphemy! According to the Bible, feminism is blasphemy.

    Once again the hierarchy, or chain of statutes and commands is spelled out in the letter to the church at Ephesus:

      "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the Saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing" (Ephesians 5:22-24).

    Here once again women are told that they are subject to their husbands. And it is compared to the status of the church to Christ. This is not some minor difference that is subject to change with popularity of a political movement. It is set in concrete and clear. In "everything" woman are subject to their own husbands. There is no room for interpretation here. There is no matter spoken to here that would be subject to change with societal fluctuations. Modern thought cannot alter the clear unchanging principles here. Modern woman and ancient woman are locked together with Eve in a permanent relationship. As it states in 1 Timothy:

      "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety" (1 Timothy 2:11-15).

    There it is again. The reason that feminism is blasphemous, counter to the Bible and therefore incompatible with Christianity, is because it refuses to accept the biblical statement that Eve sinned and therefore all women, for all time, are in subjection to their own husbands. Whether it is the 190's or the 1990's makes absolutely no difference. BC or AD are just the same on this issue. If you accept the Bible, which you must to be an intellectually honest Christian, you must reject feminism.

    Peter sums it up rather nicely:

      "For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement" (1 Peter 3:5,6).

    Holy women, Christian women, did and will, subject themselves to their own husbands, by definition. A feminist, by definition, will never do that. A feminist can never qualify as a holy woman, a Christian in good standing. By proudly rejecting that role, she just as surely rejects Christianity, even if she won't admit it.

    The Bible and the Male Chauvinist

    If you have come this far, having read about the WHAT HAPPENED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, and FEMINISM AND THE BIBLE, you are clearly aware that the Bible is set squarely against feminism. Yet millions of women have lived their lives by the Bible's commands. In so doing they have led happy and full lives within the role defined by the Bible. They stand in stark contrast with the women who have rejected their assigned role, who have a career but are single mothers, or married many times over, often with children from several fathers. The subscribers to feminist ideas struggle through life and feel empty. What is it that makes a woman of the Bible's method content and happy in her life? Her relationship with God, and a good man! The Bible has commands for the man as well as the woman and those commands are just as aggressively under attack from the feminists. What does the Bible say that a man's role is in the family. Look at this verse and see what you can see that is speaking to men:

      "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church" (1 Corinthians 14:34,35).

    This verse implies that the man is commanded to study and prepare as well as pay attention in the service and ensure his own understanding in order to be able to answer the questions of his wife. How can he answer her questions, which an intelligent woman will certainly have, if he is not prepared? He must actively participate in the service, or be found wanting. "Big deal!" you may be thinking. But here is highlighted where our society is breaking down. Men are seeing women as totally self-sufficient, and are washing their hands of them in the areas of protection and permanent bonding, rather than feeling that women need protection and consideration. Men are far more civilised in their behaviour, they reach to much higher levels, when they are focused on taking care of their women. The old saying, "Behind every great man is a good woman!" is valid. If we want to have great men in our society we need good women behind them, inspiring them to greatness.

    Next another verse which looks to be speaking to women but in reality is speaking just as much to men:

      "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God" (1 Corinthians 11:3).

    A man is commanded to treat his wife with as much love and selfless giving as Christ has done for the church. When Christ is held up as the example of being the head, a man has a tough act to emulate. Will he abuse his wife, dominate her, and make her a slave? Absolutely not! He will have her happiness in mind at all times. He will strive to provide for her wants as well as her needs and honour her always. There is no room in such a relationship for abuse or abandonment.

    Now for commands directed directly at the man alone:

      "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it... So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church... For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh...Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself..." (Ephesians 5:25,28-29,31,33).

    Where is there room for women hating here? I don't see it. A man is commanded to love his wife as much as if she were a part of his own body. What man goes out and beats on his body with a hammer on purpose? What man goes out and intentionally hurts himself in any way. A man guards himself against injury, and strives to avoid personal pain. He now will extend that zone of protection around his wife. If she is injured, he is injured. If she is happy, he is happy. Her wishes and desires are foremost in his mind. He leaves his parent's house and joins the rest of his life with hers. They walk a joint path and search for happiness together. Here is a biblical marriage. Here is a happy and permanent marriage.

    Here also is what the feminists hate and are striving to destroy. This blissful relationship drives them crazy! The idea that a man and woman can work together so smoothly in this arrangement is impossible for them to comprehend.

    In the same vein, it is stated in Colossians:

      "Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them" (Colossians 3:18).

    When a couple forgets the small things in a relationship, things can build up and bitterness is the result. When a wife does something nice for a man, he must thank her for it and let her know that it is appreciated. Flowers, and other small gifts can fill his wife's heart with joy. When a man is thinking of making his wife happy, and she is thinking of making him happy, there is just no way that they will not be happy! Bitterness can never grow in a mutually giving house.

    In speaking of a man seeking the office of Bishop in the church, it is commanded that he be:

      "One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)" (1 Timothy 3:4, 5).

    Here it clearly states that a man is responsible for the things the members of his household do. He is tasked with running a tight ship and keeping his kids in line. He is not free to dump all responsibilities for the house and kids on his wife, while he goes out with the boys or even strives to excel in his career. He is responsible for what goes on at home. He sets the bounds that the children will not cross, and he is the one to deal with them if they do. He ensures that his wife is treated with honour and respect, by himself and the children. If mother says, "Wait till your father gets home," he is responsible for making his appearance that night something sufficiently memorable that mother's future rôle in controlling the kids is made easier during the day while he is not present.

    After speaking to the wives about their responsibilities to their husbands, Peter turns to the men and says,

      "Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered" (1 Peter 3:7).

    Men are commanded to honour their wives and protect them. Abuse, belittlement and derision is not acceptable! In fact it says that even your prayers will be hindered if you do not treat your wife with respect and honour.

    Marriage is a team effort, with both members striving for a common goal. The rôles are different, just like on any team. If either member of the team is not pulling in the right direction, the whole team suffers. Whether in business, sports or marriage, each member of the team has a rôle to perform. In doubles tennis, if both members of the team cover the left side, the right side is wide open, and the opponents will hit it there every time. If both cover the net, the baseline will be uncovered. When both partners in a marriage are trying to be bread winners, the kids will be left unattended. When both partners are trying to lead, nobody is following.

    The rôles for the marriage team have been spelled out clearly in the Bible. What it says is the complete opposite of what the feminists believe and teach. Their "enlightened" approach has led to divorce and single mothers. The Bible's way has led to millions of happy, long-lasting marriages. For a Christian, feminism is not an option because it is anti-biblical, illogical, and a proven failure.

    The Bible's Definition of the Perfect Woman

      Proverbs 31

      10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. 11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. 12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life. 13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands. 14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar. 15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens. 16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard. 17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms. 18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night. 19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff. 20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy. 21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet. 22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple. 23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land. 24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant. 25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come. 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness. 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness. 28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her. 29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all. 30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised. 31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates."

    Here you see what the perfect woman will be like. She will:

    • Be a homemaker (verses 15, 18, 19)
    • Keep house (verses 15, 21, 27)
    • Do shopping (verses 13, 14, 16)
    • Sew (verses 13, 19, 21, 22)
    • Do gardening (verse 16)
    • Work hard at home ( verses 16-19, 22, 24, 27)
    • Mind the children (verses 26, 28)
    • Be a faithful wife (verses 10-12, 28-30)
    • Do volunteer work (verse 20)
    She does not:
    • Usurp her husband's rôle (verse 23)
    • Compete as a merchant (verse 24)
    • Have a career outside of the home (verses 13-27)

    The Bible defines a woman's rôle as a homemaker and here is where she will flourish and create praise for her name (verse 31). Here she will be more precious than any treasure (verse 1) and here is where she will be, if she wishes to follow the Bible.

    The Bible Was Written By Men (No Kidding!)

    Feminists, espepecially the ones pretending to be Christians, are always saying, "The Bible was written by men." This no-brainer statement is stupidly obvious. So, what is the point of making it?

    The only reason that feminists point out the obvious in this fashion is made clear by what they hope to accomplish by doing so. What they are really saying is that God did not write the Bible and it is not His word contained therein. Every time a feminist brings this up, she declares that she is not a Christian. It is an attempt to debunk Christianity!

    No Christian has ever claimed that God personally wrote the Bible. Instead the claim is made that God inspired men to put down what God wanted them to. Therefore, what feminists are saying is that God did not inspire the Bible writers, and the Bible is not a holy book and it is filled with men's opinions just like all other books written by men. This is a clear declaration against Christianity, which is entirely based upon the Bible! Feminists may be atheists or followers of some other religion but they are clearly not Christians.

    As I have demonstrated in my other articles, the Bible is squarely set against feminism. Why do feminists, who hate the Bible and what it teaches, pretend to be Christians? Clearly, feminists consider the Christian religion a political force that opposes them. They have declared war and are on the attack to destroy Christianity, attempting to change the religion to something that is not Christianity, and thereby removing the political force against them. Like a leaflet campaign, or an infiltration for the purpose of producing insurrection in the enemy population during a war, they are attempting to break the will of the enemy. Real Christianity cannot be convinced of the validity of feminism, therefore feminists are set on eliminating it. They have made great progress in this area.

    If you believe that Christianity, or perhaps all belief in God, is nonsense, then feminism may makes some points with you when they say, "The Bible was written by men." But if you are a Christian, you should be quite offended by the comment, and reject what the speaker has to say.

    Feminism and Christianity are mutually exclusive. If you pick one you must reject the other. To try and pick both leads you into the realm of being a kosher ham, or a frozen flame. You are lying to yourself at least, and to the world in more likelihood.

    A Feminist's Response

    Here is an email that I received from a confused feminist:

      Nice try, but Deborah fought against the armies attacking Israel, Jael lead [sic] the army to freedom. Lydia was a businesswoman. Phoebe was a Deacon in the church. Junia was an apostle. Isaiah and Acts say that in the last days, your sons and daughters will preach. The bible says that no one operating under a spirit can say "Jesus is Lord" unless from the Holy Ghost. Many women pastors are proclaiming Jesus is Lord while performing a supernatural act, so biblically that can only come from the Holy Spirit. Unless you believe the devil is behind preaching the gospel. Wrong again!

    As I have pointed out in my articles the Bible provides a wealth of commands, instructions and examples of the rôles that men and women are to have. Men are clearly put forward as the leaders and women are to keep the home fires burning. From Genesis to Revelation, the attitude is consist throughout. Up against this mass of evidence for the biblical rejection of feminism, what can the feminists come up with?

    Let us look at the absurd claims made in this email.

    1. Deborah fought against the armies attacking Israel.

    Did she? Is there a record of her lifting a sword like a man and actually fighting? No. In fact it is interesting to note how much of a male chauvinist Deborah was. When the wimpy king of Israel begged her to come along she insulted his effeminate, feministic attitude:

      "And Barak said unto her, If thou wilt go with me, then I will go: but if thou wilt not go with me, then I will not go. And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for Yahweh shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh" (Judges 4:8,9).

    Deborah told Barak that the enemy would be sold into the hand of a woman. Do you get it? Men are supposed to lead, and when they are so weak as they were in the time of Deborah, where she, as a woman, would be placed in the rôle of a judge and leader*, then something needed to be said to the men to shake them out of their wimpy state of mind. Would a feminist make such a statement? Would a woman who felt her sex was being put down by male chauvinism, a chauvinism which had saturated the Hebrew life from its very start, proclaim that a man's honour would be taken from him because a woman would kill Sisera? Of course not. It is clear from this story that Deborah believed that a man should stand on his own two feet and women did not belong in the position of leading men.

    2. Jael lead [sic] the army to freedom.

    This is even farther removed from reality. Feminists will twist the truth as hard as necessary to make their point of view sound like it is normal and reality based. Was Jael a leader? Who was Jael? Let's look in Judges 4.

      17. "Howbeit Sisera fled away on his feet to the tent of Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite: for there was peace between Jabin the king of Hazor and the house of Heber the Kenite."

    Jael was identified by her marriage. She was the "wife of Heber.". The king Sisera was already on the run. He had been defeated in battle and was running for his life. He would be killed as soon as he was found. He chose to run to this area because he felt he would be on friendly turf here.

    So now let us read what it is that Jael did and what her claim to fame was.

      18. "And Jael went out to meet Sisera, and said unto him, Turn in, my lord, turn in to me; fear not. And when he had turned in unto her into the tent, she covered him with a mantle. 19. And he said unto her, Give me, I pray thee, a little water to drink; for I am thirsty. And she opened a bottle of milk, and gave him drink, and covered him. 20. Again he said unto her, Stand in the door of the tent, and it shall be, when any man doth come and inquire of thee, and say, Is there any man here? that thou shalt say, No. 21. Then Jael Heber's wife took a nail of the tent, and took an hammer in her hand, and went softly unto him, and smote the nail into his temples, and fastened it into the ground: for he was fast asleep and weary. So he died."

    That is it. She tricked him into thinking he was safe. Let him fall asleep and she drove a nail into his sleeping skull. The story was more of an insult to Sisera, as Deborah had pointed out in verse 9 above, than it was praise for Jael. She was brave for a woman but she was not a leader and did not lead the army at all, to freedom or anywhere else. The army had already defeated Sisera in battle and were in the process of chasing him down to kill him. Another feminist lie falls into the dust.

    3. Lydia was a businesswoman.

    Lydia is a woman whose name is mentioned in two verses of the New Testament. She is said to be a seller of cloth ("purple") in Acts 16:14. This is not an exceptional thing for a woman to do. In Proverbs (see The Perfect Woman) it states that a woman will weave and create or grow things to sell to the merchants. There is no point to be made here that is new.

    In Acts 16:15 and also in verse 40 you will see why she is mentioned. She is mentioned because she was kind enough to open up her house to the disciples when they needed lodging. That's it.

    4. Phoebe was a Deacon in the church.

    Here is all the entire Bible says about Phoebe:

      "I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea: That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also" (Romans 16:1-2). [1]

    What do we know about Phoebe from the Bible? This is a letter of introduction for a woman to the church of Rome. She was a servant of the church at Cenchrea. What service she performed is unknown beyond the statement that she succoured many, including Paul. This is not a woman leading the church or performing any rôle other than that of a traditional woman. Only a feminist would even mention her as an example of feminism in the Bible. Would Paul state in 1 Timothy 2:11 that women must be silent in church, and in Romans 16:1,2 state a woman was running a church?

    Please note that whatever Paul is saying here, the only mention of Phoebe that occurs at all in the entire Bible is in this obscure verse. The feminist pushes aside the massive, clear and obvious evidence throughout the Bible, in order to grab with a death grip upon the scarce and the obscure, in order to fabricate something which might be pawned off as evidence. The Bible is completely silent about even a single official function of the church ever being performed by a woman.

    5. Junia was an apostle.

    Once again reaching for the obscure, we have the feminists grabbing onto this verse:

      "Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me" (Romans 16:7).

    Here Paul refers to two long time Christians by name. There is some debate as to whether Junia is male or female. Even if female there is no identification as to what is meant by the term apostle in this verse. These two may be married and many times a man and wife will be listed together under the title that the man alone holds. What rôle did Junia play in the church? There is no record whatsoever. If female, we must assume that it was not an official one because there is absolutely no indisputable record of any official position held in the church by any female in the entire New Testament. No action of Junia is listed here or anywhere else. To read into this verse something that would contradict the rest of the Bible, would be deceitful at best. When the feminist proclaims to the world that the church had female deacons and apostles they contradict every piece of evidence in the Bible which defines the rôles of men and women. It is really quite amusing to see the blindness that feminists are eager to have towards the absurdity of their desperate position. They are quite willing to overturn everything in the Bible in order to allow their twisted point of view to survive. That is why a Christian Feminist can never truly exist.

    6. Isaiah and Acts say that in the last days, your sons and daughters will preach.

    You can tell the love and concern for accuracy that feminists have for the Bible. This feminist does not produce knowledge from study of the Bible, but rather from referencing some feminist quote from a book. Neither of the books she cited says anything about daughters preaching. There is no verse in the entire Bible which contains the words "daughters" and "preach," or any variation of those words. Isaiah doesn't even say anything about daughters prophesying. However, in Acts and in Joel it does talk about sons and daughters prophesying. Here is what Acts 2 says:

      17. "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18. And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19. And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come".

    And Joel 2:

      28 "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of Yahweh come."

    The two biblical quotes are closely related as you can see. Note that when all of these other events happen then daughters will prophesy and not until. Also, you will note that it says absolutely nothing about women, young or old preaching! It is referring to a special situation in the very last days where the world is going to be turned on its head by natural wonders, and those from every part of the church will be prophesying. It is not speaking of the way that the church will be normally run before that intense time.

    7. The bible says that no one operating under a spirit can say "Jesus is Lord" unless from the Holy Ghost. Many women pastors are proclaiming Jesus is Lord while performing a supernatural act, so biblically that can only come from the Holy Spirit. Unless you believe the devil is behind preaching the gospel. Wrong again!

    Here is a real proof for you. We are supposed to accept the statement as fact that there are many women "pastors" performing supernatural acts. Why are we supposed to believe that? Because the feminists say so. Great reasoning. We only have to remember that Joseph Smith, and many others have made similar claims for themselves.

    When the Bible clearly points out that women have a certain rôle, and feminists proclaim that rôle is a sham and demeaning, can there be any doubt as to what the feminist's true feeling is for the Bible and its message? It is impossible for someone who feels that way about the Bible, who places their own ideas so far over what the Bible teaches, to be a servant of the God of the Bible. Christianity and feminism are mutually exclusive concepts and the only reason feminists are interested in being viewed as Christians is to destroy the foundation of that great source of opposition to their movement, from the inside. Their efforts have been surprisingly effective. There are a large number of churches which have given up the Bible in favour of the feminist doctrine, installed woman into the rôle of "pastor," and thereby moved out of the Christian community.

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    * This is the only time in all of the history contained in the Hebrew Old Testament where a female was put into this position!

    Comments by Christopher C. Warren

    [1] Whilst the broad thrust of this article is accurate there are a number of errors which naturally arise out of faulty translations which we have dealt with at some length in other essays and publications. There can be no doubt, upon close inspection of scripture, that women do indeed have ministerial rôles to perform in the church (local assembly) but that these are different and separate from the men. So whilst there are indeed no female Apostles, Pastors, Elders, Deacons in the traditionally understood meaning of these words, this does not mean that they do not have their own priestly callings which are reflected in their divinely created motherly rôles. Accordingly, this ministry ordains additionally and separately from male priestly offices, Pastresses, Eldresses and Deaconesses in specialised ministries reflecting their spiritual dispositions and principally directed towards their own gender. In these they do not replace or usurp the rôle accorded to men by Yahweh. For a complete list of materials pertaining to women and women's ministries, see our website on New Covenant Women.

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