Q. I was reading about SAI on your web page. You state, "If you have had contact with this group and would like to know more, contact
the New Covenant Church of God's Webmaster. We have original materials
from this group to be found nowhere else."
I have had some contact with them and want all the information
you can send. I had no idea that this is the kind of thing they were
involved with. I'm glad I read your page. Please send me info as soon as
you can.
A. I should be happy to supply you with what you need. However, be
aware that there is a huge corpus of data behind them mosly in the form
of hundreds of letters to myself when 'Davied Israel' thought he was
winning me over to his cause. I have been asked by a religious
journal to write a series of articles but I have not got further than
Part 1 because of ill health. So my time is somewhat limited. I will get
the articles finished eventually but as you will appreciate I must
presently prioritise my time.
Perhaps to begin with you could ask specific questions and I will
do my best to answer these. Should you need documentary proof I can
arrange for this also though this will require sifting through a great
deal of materials.
One of the problems with SAI is that it is the doctrinal
chameleon, concealing its true intentions beneath layers of mask/shell
teachings. When I was first (indirectly) associated with it I was led to
understand that it was basically a development of Mormonism. It's early members
were certainly led to believe so and were encouraged in their beliefs,
I for one being told that the inspiration of the Bible was accepted. It
is a long story to be sure but the alarm bells began to go off when I
learned of their deep respect for the works of satanist and notorious
sexual pervert Aleister Crowley whom (amazingly) they continue to
publically acknowledge. But when I understood that they believed in sex
between parents and their adult children, and that they practiced
multiple sex between adults, it was at this point that I removed my children
(who had been taken there by my first wife who converted to their
religion) and took the matter to the courts in England, thereby gaining custody
of them. The details of their hidden beliefs are to be found on the
court records in England.
To simplify matters for myself you could perhaps indicate specific
things that interest you. I must warn you, however, that you will
meet evasion and perhaps denial from Mr. Israel himself if you
confront him with these things so you would be advised to have the physical
proof at hand when you do so.
One final thing: I feel a certain responsibility towards the
children at SAI and would not like everything to go public for their sakes.
The colony at SAI has been investigated by the FBI once before and I
am aware that had they found anything incriminating children would
have been removed from their parents. This I would not like to see
unless it is conclusively established that the children are being abused. I
have a heart for little ones and do not want to see them hurt. I suppose
what I am saying is: what sort of a person would I be entrusting this
information to? Is he someone trustworthy with a heart for the
welfare of children who are always the worst victims of religious abuse?
I must decide whether I should take the risk of sending photocopied
materials (if it is requested) or just allowing an enquirer to look through
it for the former, if put into the wrong hands, could lead to
sensationalist journalism. I do not want the truth misrepresented even
concerning those whom I despise.
Though Mr.Israel may, I suppose, have reformed some of his more
extreme ideas over the years since I knew him, I am sceptical. As he once
confessed to me, sex lies at the heart of his core belief system
and the thought that one day there might be a spiritual life without it
left him in a state of stupendous horror. And as he confessed to my first
wife, having adulterated her and broken up my family: "I am basically
just a lover". You may conclude what you will from such an article of
belief.
I would also appreciate having a short resumè of whom I am talking to.
Are you by any chance from the Essene Church in association with
SAI or are you a direct member of SAI?
I hope this is helpful. (19-01-2000)
I'd be happy to tell you about myself. First, let me state
that I have no intentions of hurting anyone with this information, Davied
included. I want the information to discourage people who may want to either
join or become involved with SAI. I supposed I would consider myself an Essene
but I am a follower of Jesus, my only Lord and Master, first and foremost.
I know a number of people who are either becoming involved with
SAI or who
are already involved with SAI. I know these people are
dedicated to Jesus
and want to be followers of Jesus. I want to tell them what I
have found
out and provide physical proof to them so they will discontinue
their
association with SAI (they are, as I was, are convinced that
Davied walks
with God and trust him unconditionally).
The main information I want is anything you have to prove
Davied is a sex
pervert and that he has been one in the past, i.e., sex between
parents and
their adult children, and that they practiced multiple sex
between adults
and that Davied was directly involved in this. Where can I get
copies of
the court records in England where you say, "The details of
their hidden
beliefs are to be found on?" Tell me more about his statement
that sex lies
at the heart of his core belief system.
Also, anything which connects him with satanist, sexual pervert
Aleister
Crowley (that is new to me; I had no idea!).
Also, you say, "One of the problems with SAI is that it is the
doctrinal
chameleon, concealing its true intentions beneath layers of
mask/shell
teachings." What exactly are it's true intentions?
I will use this information to confront Davied, himself, but
have no
intentions to make anything public. I want proof so when Davied
tells me
that he wasn't involved in this (it was the other people) I can
tell him I
have proof. Hopefully, this will keep him from trying to
deceive others and
attempting to convert those who want to be followers of Jesus
to this "new"
doctrine of his; at least those I know.
(19-01-2000)
Can you do one thing for me. Can you get me proof that Davied
Israel's real
name is Gilbert Clark? I asked him personally if his given name
was Davied
Israel and he said yes. If I establish that I know his real
name is Gilbert
Clark, he will know that I know he has lied to me.
(02-02-2000)"
Peace be with you my friend,
BJ
"And the truth shall bear witness of itself."
He's actually changed his name by deed poll so in a way it's his "real name" but he was BORN Gilbert Clark. I got this info from my ex-wife who "married" him so I don't have that on paper, but I know that's a fact. But you could check that up for yourself - he was born in San
Antonio, Texas, and his mother may still be living (though I'm not sure now). Anyway, it shouldn't be a problem chasing up his birth records. There will be a record that he changed his name by deed poll so that shouldn't be too difficult either.
He's changed his names several times - Gilbert Clark > David Clark > Davied Asia Israel. Ask him to explain the occult meaning of his last name - it adds up to 777 in the Hebrew numerological system and is a designation for God Himself. (He added the "e" in Davied to make
sure it added up). Numerology is important to him - Aleister Crowley was very absorbed with 777 though he (Davied) now claims to be working with 888. (01-03-2000)