Axroot's Critique of

    NCCG Overview

    [His in black, mine in green]

    [An overview is usually a short general description of something much larger, and it owes to stick to the facts, as a rule, omitting the author’s opinion. After the mud hit the fan in the Fast Facts page, I was expecting at least an objective overview.

    Please notice how “seems” and “may” are used repeatedly in this article. Almost everything the author states “SEEMS” or “MAY” be so. Facts and proof are nowhere to be found, surprisingly enough. The emphasis in bold is mine. The most part of the information, especially the description of the “patterns” that the author supposedly observed is quite inaccurate. It becomes obvious that the research into NCCG was not quite as thorough as one would expect.]

    NCCG's religious beliefs, at all times, reflect the current convictions of it's functional leader, Christoper C. Warren. Warren was apparently involved in the Mormon Church before starting NCCG, possibly in a leadership or other similar role. Some of the first members of this group may have been drawn from a Mormon environment.

    NCCG has a small compound about 18.5 miles from Arvika, Sweden. The compound was purchased in piecemeal, with the first sections being purchased in 1997. As of this writing, the residents on the property are varied in age, from small children to elderly, and children are home schooled within the compound. One or more of the residents on this property appear not to be NCCG members. The address published by NCCG is a post office box, Box 120, S-671 23 ARVIKA, Sweden. More information about the compound may be available, see the "
    exit counselors" link for details.

     

    At the time of this writing, the compound is discussed on NCCG's website at http://www.nccg.org/Kadesh.html . A diagram of the compound, taken directly from this site and rotated to an approximately correct compass orientation, is shown below:

    <Kadesh Image>

    If it becomes necessary to remove the above image from this report, it will be replaced with images and/or diagrams that have no potential copyright issues but that this web site author had originally determined may be unnecessarily privacy invasive.

     

    [Privacy invasive? That sounds a bit like this: “If you make me take this image down, you won’t like what I’ll publish in its place, so keep your wits about you”. A threat?]

    The more deeply involved members of this group, including Warren himself, practice polygamy (one man multiple wives), although the extra marriages are not legally official within NCCG members' governmental localities. Warren has young children by two women currently living at the compound. At the time of this writing, Warren is planning marriages to more women this year (2006), and expects to have "married" 5 in total by the end of the year.

     

    [So how many wives does C.C. Warren have? According to the author, two. So the more deeply involved members are just 2 women? Really, that’s such a large and dangerous number! Also, it would be quite revealing to let us know how he found out C.C. “cult leader” Warren’s secret and devious plans of marrying 5 women by the end of 2006, assuming this is the truth. Seriously, how can someone obtain such a piece of information? It is definitely nowhere to be found in any of the NCCG websites. It is obviously not something C.C. Warren would discuss but with someone he trusts, assuming he is polygamous himself (which, if he is, would in all probability force him to be really careful with whom he shares that kind of knowledge).

    Warren is the primary author of a book that resembles a Bible, both in physical appearance (due to the way Warren chose to have it printed) and in the writing style employed in the book. The book's content is very much a bible "knock-off", for lack of a better description, in its physical appearance and content arrangement. Its content was primarily created by Warren with contributions to an unknown degree by other group members who were active at the time of its writing. Numerous visions and revelations received by Warren have been included in this book, and the book is frequently cited by Warren as containing prophecies about world events which came true shortly after they were written. It is also the source of extra rules and guidelines for NCCG. Parts of this book are, at the time of this writing, visible on NCCG's website at http://www.nccg.org/olive.html .

     

    [Some more examples of bad “journalism”. The author mentions a book, he mentions every opinion he has about it, but not its title! I really expected to find an honest overview here and all I find is nccg_concern’s opinions over and over. If he cares to give a clear idea of what NCCG does, it is irrelevant what HE thinks and what impression it gives to HIM. Facts are needed. Indeed, the Fast Facts page should be called something like “Fast and spicy overview of my opinions”. But then who cares about nccg_concern’s opinions? People visit the nccg_concern website because they are concerned about NCCG, am I wrong? They want to know about NCCG, not about the person’s with the nickname nccg_concern feelings. What the Olive Branch (which is the book in question) resembles in this author’s eyes, what it reminds him, whether it looks like a Bible or not (and so many books do look like a Bible, obviously the author should visit a local library someday), is far beyond the objective of this writing, assuming the objective is informing the public about NCCG, regardless one’s concern.]

    Some things which have remained unchanged for the history of NCCG, to date, are:

    • the inclusion of Warren's personal visions, revelations, and prophecies (often received in the form of dreams) in NCCG's core beliefs,
    • Warren's position as the functional leader of NCCG,
    • Warren's title of "Presiding Patriarch" within NCCG. He has also been called "Lev-Tsiyon haEfrayim" for an unknown duration.
    • The display of large, colorful banners with group-specific symbols at group functions
    • Warren's writing of voluminous material related to NCCG.

    Some things which have changed throughout NCCG's history, often more than once, are:

    • The people in NCCG's "leadership" other than Warren,
    • The names used for religious deities (IE: Yah'shua and Yeshua and Jesus)
    • The methods and means of evangelizing,
    • The country in which the headquarters is located,
    • NCCG's perceived "direction" from God
    • NCCG's actual constituency (members coming and going)
    • The name of NCCG. In addition to having officially changed its name repeatedly, it has different names in different areas of the written material on NCCG websites. At the time of this writing, some of the names are:
      • "B'rit Chadashah Assembly of Yahweh",
      • "New Covenant Church of God"
      • "Guds Nya Förbunds Kyrka"
      • "Mishpachah Gan Lev-Tsiyon" which is clarified in the source material as meaning "Family of the Garden of the Heart of Zion" or "The Birth of Josephite Messianic Israel", depending on where you read it. [Inaccurate information: "Mishpachah Gan Lev-Tsiyon" does not translate to "The Birth of Josephite Messianic Israel" in any context.]
    • The different names for NCCG sometimes refer to different perceived specialties or areas of interest within NCCG. There may also be other names and English language descriptions of the names.

    At the time of this writing, NCCG combines parts of these beliefs into its core belief system:

    • an interpretation of the Bible
    • an interpretation of Judaism,
    • the revelations, visions, and prophecies received by Warren
    • theophosticism
    • acknowledgment of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) as being real
    • demonic manifestation, and illnesses being caused by demonic influence

    [I fail to see any problem with the above. Most churches and denominations comply with them or most of them.

    Again, as I have mentioned elsewhere, I consider it quite naïve on the author’s part to believe that SRA is a fairy-tale. There are numerous sources that claim the opposite. His links that “prove” its non-existence are from one source only. To generalise, how can someone prove the non-existence of anything?]

    NCCG is presently using the internet as the main tool for its recruitment efforts. NCCG uses a variety of internet applications to approach new recruits and typically pretends to be a Christian group. In reality, the "deep" beliefs are in clear contrast with typical Christianity. These non-christian beliefs are not brought to the attention of new recruits immediately, but will eventually be revealed through the recruit's thorough exploration of NCCG's websites or in the private group chatroom as explained below.

    [NCCG pretends to be a Christian group? There are 3000 articles on Christian beliefs, interpreting the Bible, giving advice on how to live a Christian life and all that is pretence? Is that to say, that in order to attract people to his manipulative spider’s web, C.C. Warren wrote 3000 articles to successfully pretend he’s Christian? How this author repeatedly fails to make sense amazes me.

    The author says that there are some “deep” beliefs in clear contrast with “typical” Christianity. Considering the thousand different denominations, doctrines, interpretations etc, could the author please inform us what exactly is TYPICAL Christianity? How does he define it? I’m sure if I asked a theologist what “typical” Christianity is, he would have a hard time answering. Yet, in the very next sentence, whatever doesn’t comply with the author’s view of “typical” Christianity is actually NON-Christian, according to him. Radical, isn’t it? If you consider yourself as Christian, maybe you should check yourself, according to this person. Maybe you should check to see if you are the typical sort, otherwise, you know, you actually just pretend you are Christian… How many Christians, for instance, believe in evolution? Yet evolution is downright a non-Christian doctrine. Does this make them non-Christians? Clearly it’s much more complicated than that and a matter of worldview. So I wouldn’t be so easy to declare anyone as “non-Christian” or “pretending to be Christian”.]

    Two verified recruitment paths are as follows: [There are no facts or proof for any of the steps of this path. Considering how rare these steps are in my observation, I could easily say that what follows is in the most part speculation or isolated events. To prove this, I am going to provide numbers for the people who fall into each category, which have been obtained from website counters and observation.]

    1. A group member enters a christian-based Internet Relay Chat (IRC) chatroom and injects the link for NCCG's public website, www.nccg.org (Website Number 1), into the chat. [Many of the members of NCCG Cyber Community and Deliverance from Demons have written their testimony of how they came across the main website. Not one of them so far has mentioned seeing the URL being advertised in a chat room. If someone did this, it is not one of the members. The most common route to find NCCG has been searching for theological material through Google. Let’s assume, however that what a person does to start with is to visit the main NCCG website. The visitors of this website were about 3,000,000 people last autumn.]
    2. A chat participant (recruit) sees the link, visits Website Number 1, and engages the NCCG member in conversation. An online relationship is established between the NCCG member and the recruit. [Of the 3,000,000 people who have visted the NCCG main website, only about 400 have become members of the NCCG Cyber Community. That is 0.013%. In that sense, if this was the pattern, then NCCG is a failure! Very few people do as this author describes. Most will either read as much as they want of the main website and just leave or discuss it somewhere else.]
    3. After a period of indoctrination due to the recruit's reading of material on Website Number 1 and talking about the website content with the NCCG member using internet chat, the recruit applies for membership and access on Website Number 2, the MSN group "Deliverance from Demons Reception". Reading material available on this MSN group website indoctrinates the recruit into believing that he or she has mental, physical, or behavioral problems that are due to demonic possession. [At any rate, the Deliverance from Demons Reception does not exist any longer but has merged with NCCG Cyber Community so I will by-pass this “step”.]
    4. The recruit becomes sufficiently indoctrinated in these beliefs, and asks for permission to enter Website/Chatroom Number 3, the MSN group named "Deliverance from Demons". This website is defined as a private, invite-only website and chatroom where a special, weekly internet chat with Warren and other group leadership is held. The recruit is, at this point, asking to be allowed in so that his or her "demons" can be expelled. The recruit is only allowed in if he or she convinces NCCG leadership that the current level of indoctrination and desire to be "delivered" is genuine. The recruit also has to fill in a questionnaire with leading questions about NCCG's beliefs in addition to personal questions. [The number of members in the Deliverance from Demons group these days is 76 people. Not all, actually a minority, are members of the NCCG Cyber Community as well. This is obvious as among believers and those who just investigate religion, seeking to be delivered from one’s demons is not a tendency of the majority.]
    5. This Website/Chatroom #3 is used to indoctrinate the recruit deeper into NCCG's beliefs, and one-on-one internet chat "deliverance sessions" are held between the recruit and group elders. Additionally, Warren reveals some of NCCG's non-christian, radical beliefs to people who have reached this level. Warren explains that he explicitly has not put these beliefs on the NCCG.org web site, and that they are only revealed through direct communication with members. A full explanation of and attempted exposure to "The Garden", a suggestible, altered state of consciousness resembling hypnosis (in laymans terms), is an example of one of these beliefs. [Now as for the weekly chat sessions, the persons who are active excluding C.C. Warren and his family, are, in fact, no more than 5 individuals (usually less). Many people have participated briefly but never returned. Given all that, I seriously doubt the word “indoctrination”. If the members of the MSN group were indeed indoctrinated, or had to be so to participate in these chat sessions, they obviously wouldn’t leave so easily. People come and go without giving any kind of excuse and most times, never to return, except for these very few individuals who participate regularly. Yet, even these people don’t focus on actual deliverance but rather discuss a variety of topics. According to the NCCG’s own theology, “expelling demons” only requires faith in Jesus and nothing more. NCCG has posted a number of articles on what I would call “do-it-yourself deliverance. It is misleading to imply that NCCG convinces people they have issues which involve “demonic” influence, but will conceal from individuals how to overcome them until they get to be in touch with the leader himself. One-on-one deliverance sessions are VERY rare, this I can say with certainty from observation. Also, despite the fact that the beliefs C.C. Warren shares may or may not be non-Christian, at no point is the individual (“recruit”, as if this is the army) forced to accept any of it. There have often been examples of people disagreeing with C.C. Warren quite openly. Certainly, no one is a victim of anyone’s non-Christian ideas in the real world. That way, atheists should be deprived of the right to say their opinions at all. An example of a clearly non-Christian belief being withheld from the NCCG investigators until the NCCG leader gets to speak to them one-on-one would be appreciated.]
    6. Members may undergo "deliverance sessions" with an NCCG member known as a "deliverance minister", and can end up in a dependent and controlling relationship with that person. These members will also tend to experience "The Garden" altered state of consciousness. Both of these can be done utilizing either internet chat or telephone/internet voice communications. [There are occasions when a member develops a friendly relationship between themselves and the deliverance ministers (these are 4 people listed in separate documents the NCCG groups). In every case, these relationships were built on the basis of “asking and receiving”. That is, the member was in every case the person who wished for a friendly relationship to be established and also, the deliverance ministers have never rejected any such invitation. As for this relationship being characterised with the loaded term “dependent and controlling”, I would like to see examples, but most of all, hear this from someone who knows what he is talking about. I know that a “dependent and controlling” relationship is established by the will of the person who controls and not of the one who depends, yet this has never happened. The “Garden” will be discussed later.]
    7. Recruits at this level are encouraged to send Warren monetary gifts. [How does the author know? Again some evidence, a testimony, anything, would be required for such a claim. To say that a “cult leader grooms” members to encourage them to send him money later but without any clues to prove it is quite over the line, isn’t it? If you have an active imagination (and enjoy attacking people), I suppose you could come up with claims of psychological manipulation and the like, but asking for money? Can the author prove it? If he can’t he shouldn’t even mention it.]
    8. The structure of NCCG is eventually revealed to the recruit, and the recruit may be encouraged to visit an elder group member in person (the visit will be to Warren himself, at the compound, especially if the recruit is Scandinavian). [This again is inaccurate information. The families at the NCCG collective cannot easily support more than a few visitors. And again, to think rationally, would you invite to your home every person you have met online? They have small children in their house. Do you think that they would take such visits lightly and they would avidly encourage people to them? And then again, would you say that the people a family trusts are “heavily-indoctrinated” individuals? Isn’t there a chance that the persons who visit a family are NOT the family’s victims but actually their friends?] During this visit, the recruit may participate in rituals which will make him or her a more official member of NCCG. The activities performed in person may include:
      • baptism;
      • a ritual in which the recruit rejects his biological parents and claims a new mother and father within NCCG; [“Rituals happening in secret” in the NCCG “compound”? I wouldn’t know, but how does the author know? What happens in the ritual exactly? Do they sacrifice animals and drink their blood? Why is it called a ritual? What if the author is just plain imaginative? Besides all the big and scary words, could we please have some real information?]
      • If visiting the compound near Arvika, Sweden for a temporary visit:
        • Encouraging the recruit to stay at the compound, even though the visit was originally planned as temporary; [Even if we assume this is true, C.C. Warren was failed dramatically. In another place in this website, the author says that maybe ONE person is a visitor currently at the “compound”. Also, all visits from these 5 individuals were planned and came to an end.]
        • Encouraging the recruit to prepare to relocate to the compound at a later date; [As mentioned before, the families of that live in the headquarters are incapable of supporting more than a few visitors at a time. In other words, even if they wanted to “collect” people there, they wouldn’t be able to.]
        • Historical trends suggest that influencing the recruit to move to the compound may include the recruit being told he or she is a candidate for being appointed a leadership position; [How does the author know this? What is his evidence? To cut a long story short, what he is telling us is that NCCG really wants people to move to their “compound” and use all sorts of persuasion to achieve that. Why doesn’t the author say it straight out? Because it doesn’t make sense if you consider how FEW people have ever been “talked into” moving to C.C. Warren’s house permanently: just ONE person. Not to mention that the reasons he/she did that could be practically anything. One person does not make a historical trend.]
      • deeper indoctrination;
      • participation in group rituals such as group meals with special meaning to the group; [The only group rituals ever mentioned in NCCG are the Biblical festivals (millions of people observe these) and what they call the Lord’s Supper (what this entails may be found in detail in the NCCG main website). There is nothing mysterious about these things.]
      • attending group functions where a group elder or Warren preaches; [Well obviously, the man has written about 500 sermons, he has to read them to someone.]
      • Things which at this time do not appear to happen during temporary compound visits by recruits are:
        • making the recruit extremely busy
        • sleep deprivation
        • enforced cession of contact with outsiders (phone calls/text messages)
        • physical restriction to the property

    [I was amazed by the blunt propaganda this last statement. No other mention of abuse is there in the nccg_concern webpage except for this one – but notice that these things do NOT appear to happen. At least not “AT THIS TIME”… at least not “during temporary compound visits”… Does this subtly imply that in the future NCCG WILL start keeping their “permanent visitors” under lock and key? Why does the author mention techniques that in some prisons are used to torture people (e.g. sleep deprivation) and say, BUT not yet? Why did the author mention 4 things that do NOT happen? You know, they don’t wear black pointed hats and they don’t breed leopards either, maybe that should be mentioned too.]

    [Just how bewitching are C.C. Warren’s writings that the “recruit” gets so sucked in that all she wants is to be delivered from her demons and marry the “cult leader”, you are about to see.]

    1. Female recruit becomes aware of nccg.org and the groups.msn.com message boards [She just became aware and she’s a “recruit”? What is a “recruit” according to the author anyway?]
    2. Recruit joins the NCCG Cyber Community message board, revealing personal information during the application process. [All that is needed is a statement explaining why she wants to join. No personal information required anywhere.]
    3. Recruit begins to engage in chat sessions, both 1 on 1 chat sessions with the group leader (Christopher C. Warren) and group internet chat sessions with other NCCG members.
    4. An online relationship is established through internet chat with the group leader, and the group leader uses psychological manipulation to cause the recruit to trust him and view him as her leader. The recruit becomes progressively more controlled by the group leader as the relationship progresses. [Yet another raw accusation of “psychological manipulation” for the sake of ulterior motives. Is the group leader then such a monster? Seriously, can the same person who did all the work to build a huge website (nccg_concern himself was impressed) dedicated to bring people to God be at the same time psychologically manipulate every supposedly “gullible” young woman? But the most puzzling thing is why the author of this overview would jump to accuse another person of being so malicious, without ANY proof whatsoever, and expect you and I who read this to take his words to heart. If it is the truth, why is the accusation standing there alone without any proof or evidence next to it? Why such slander?]
    5. Recruit demonstrates changed behavior as indicated in the next section of this page. The new behaviors may be introduced in a callous and rigid manner to the recruit's immediate family, causing a degree of family strife. [This allegation implies that the author was in a position to monitor the individual’s behaviour BEFORE she took up the interest in NCCG and her behaviour AFTER and is in position to compare. This is obviously quite unlikely.]
    6. At some time in this process, recruit has begun entering an altered state of consciousness that resembles hypnosis called "The Garden". [I would like to make a testimony of my own observations of how the Deliverance from Demon’s chat room functions concerning the “Garden” as this is mentioned also before. What I can say for sure (because this is a bit of a mystery to me also) is that the “Garden” is not a state of hypnosis, nor does it resemble it. Anyone who has experienced it, (or claimed to do so, I wouldn’t know) where perfectly able to type, discuss and have clear-as-usual mental and emotional abilities. I can testify these things because I have been present in such a setting more than once. However, the “Garden” appeared to be a discussion topic in the Deliverance from Demons chat room and message board for no more than 2-3 weeks last autumn. The matter was dropped due to the difficulty so many people had to “experience” this state. In fact, the people who managed that (or claimed to have done so) were no more than 2-3 people. Again, poor statistics. Please note that these people were not even members. Finally, it has NEVER been so much as implied that the “Garden” is in any way obligatory for those who wish to be members or join NCCG under any terms.]
    7. Recruit accepts the group leader as her "spiritual father" and one of the group leader's wives as her "spiritual mother" in an online ritual. If the recruit is still living at home, the recruit's relationship with her real parents may become noticeably  damaged as this situation progresses. [Only 3 people call the group leader “spiritual father”, and two of them are men. It is interesting to parallel the case of the Catholic priests here whom people call “father” but to my knowledge, none of these people do through “rituals” (online or offline) to renounce their parents.]
    8. Recruit accepts the group leader as her future husband in an online ritual, and begins making plans to move to NCCG's compound to live in a polygamic relationship with the group leader and his wives. The full nature of these plans may be concealed from the recruit's immediate family. [And the big finale! It’s similar to the end of a fairy-tale, isn’t it? And yet, ironically, that’s exactly what it is.]

    [I wish to point something out about the implied demographics here. So far, we know that only one person is currently a “permanent visitor” of C.C. Warren’s house. We also are given the information, but the author himself, that C.C. Warren intends to “add” another 3 women in his supposed polygamous family. Assuming these statements are valid, that makes a total of 4 people. Assuming that EVERYTHING the author of this website says is true, these 4 people and only these are in “danger” (real or imagined) as of now. These 4 people IN TOTAL are the ones he is concerned about, obviously, because only these people’s situations, using a considerate amount of spicing, can fit to the patterns above. It makes me wonder… has he written all this for JUST them? To take it somewhat further, I am wondering, has he written all this for the families of these people to see, perhaps? Because he has had the courtesy to make lists of the “signs” that seriously involved NCCG members show as a fruit of his “historical” research (with a sample of 4 people, always according to him). That doesn’t sound scientific and it doesn’t make any sense.]

    The new recruit's behavior changes as the indoctrination and chatroom contact with Warren and NCCG members progresses. Some of the new characteristics are:
    [Except for the ones who are more or less lies or have no proof to back them up, you will notice that the rest are common for millions of people around the world.]

    • Changes in dietary habits - - recruit begins maintaining "kosher" eating habits, possibly in spite of any social or family friction this may cause. [Millions eat kosher, millions are vegetraians, millions are on special diets, despite any social or family friction this may cause.]
    • Recruit rejects typical Christian holidays, possibly in a callous way that disregards family members' customs and feelings. [Yes, they WOULD reject “Christian” holidays, but as for doing it in a callous way, that’s just speculation, the tabloid kind.]
    • Recruit refuses to participate in work, travel, purchasing of items in stores, or out-of-house activity on Saturdays, possibly in spite of any social or family friction this may cause. [Millions of Jews and converted into Judaism around the world do the same, in spite of any social or family friction this may cause.]
    • The recruit is specifically prepared by existing group members and/or leadership to expect his or her family and friends to reject them due to their beliefs, while at the same time, an attitude of rejection toward them is being fostered through indoctrination. Parents may be vilified by the group elders as having caused demonic influence to the recruit. The exact outcome of this within the family will depend on the individuals involved, but the intent is to get the recruit to isolate themselves from their biological family and non-group friends. [It’s ironic how all the groups members I have seen during deliverance sessions or any kind of activity being so very serious about biblical teachings (which is why they change dietary habits, observe the Saturday Sabbath and so on) but (according to this author) they don’t observe the most well known and important Christian doctrine which is to love and respect one another. Is he telling us that they are “indoctrinated” to do EXACTLY as the Bible says (even somewhat difficult things like resting every Saturday), but NOT when it comes to relationships in their own families and friends? In fact I have witnessed people being corrected in group chat sessions for treating their parents in a rude or provocative way. A person was actually given the advise to hug her mother regularly (she was cold towards her earlier).]
    • The recruit may send money, either small or large sums, directly to Warren. [Millions send donations to charities and churches. Bad sign?]
    • The recruit may receive specific orders from the group elders regarding large changes in his or her personal life, such as ceasing contact with a friend or family member, relocation to a new residence, or terminating a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. [Consider: the Catholic Church is against pre-marital relationships. That basically excludes the option of having a boyfriend. Are they dangerous too? This is no news. The Bible condemns fornication and whoever abides with the Bible accepts this as a rule. My suggestion is that the author should be honest and blame the one on whom the real “blame” for these rules is to be placed on: God. Is the author an atheist?]
    • The recruit may come to believe that the group elders, above all others, "know what is best" for that individual, and feel driven to obey directions from them. [It is obvious that a person who joins a religious group is willing to place a leader over his own head. It is also obvious that he/she will follow that leader because this is what the word leader means: one who is followed. Now who a group-member consults is his/her own choice. Most people who are NOT members of religious groups have persons in their lives who they believe they “know what is best”. Actually many people out there seem to believe that they “know what is best” for just about everyone else, including nccg_concern, apparently.]

     

    The contents of the "Deliverance from Demons" chatroom has been observed on a number of occasions.  This chatroom appears to be a milieu control environment. Some facts about how the chat is conducted are: 

    • Much group discussion and activities are led by "Community Moderator" (usually Christopher Warren) and "Female Moderator" (appears to be one of Warren's 'wives');
    • A verbal and behavioral protocol appears to be in place where Warren and female_moderator are treated as parent-like figures. Referral to the pair by many of the chat participants as "Dad" and "Mom" can be extensive and repetitive. [As I mentioned before, this was done exclusively by a tiny number of people. It’s not a pattern, surely not a protocol.]
    • When strange dreams and other mental phenomena, including those which resemble psychotic episodes or psychological problems, are reported by the lower-ranking or new chat participants, they are often explained by Warren, female_moderator, or other higher-ranking group members as being caused by demons. [Again, this is inaccurate. Strange dreams may also be caused by God, according to what NCCG believes, and be interpreted as such. At any rate, they have their own way to do this and it us ultimately up to the individual to decide whether the interpretation will be taken to heart or not. Many psychologists do this too, very often giving contradicting answers, which is to show that their way of interpreting dreams is not very accurate and most of it suffers doubt and dispute among scientists of the same subject.]
    • Chat participants who do not follow what appears to be an expected path of accepting the determinations provided by Warren and others are ejected from the chatroom. This does not happen often due to the screening process applied to applicants for this chatroom; [What is the path of determinations? It would be useful to have it quoted here by the author, but to cut a long story short, all which is expected (as written down and published in the group) is honesty and politeness. Expecting politeness is of course common sense, but expecting honesty is in most cases a bit of a luxury.]
    • Young people who have relationships with non-group biological parents have been seen to be coached to cut the relationships and cultural ties off. This activity seems prevalent when a person is being groomed for deeper involvement with NCCG (such as core membership at NCCG's compound). [In most western countries, people are expected to leave home when they reach a certain age (about 18 to 20) and they are expected to “cut the ties” between themselves and mom and dad and live alone. Regardless the fact that only a tiny bunch of people seem to be interested in what the author calls “deep involvement” (I just call it interest), even fewer of them actually live or have existing ties with their parents. So the activity SEEMS prevalent? Where are the facts?]

    Other groups.msn.com group web sites and chat rooms exist for people who have been recruited even farther into NCCG's membership.

    NCCG makes extensive use of instant messaging internet chat software. Things which can happen using this form of communication are:

    • "Deliverance sessions". Psychotic eposides in the person receiving the deliverance (called a "client") have been noted to occur relative to these sessions. [The author forgets or maybe does not know: psychotic episodes can occur relative to anything.]
    • "The Garden" altered state of consciousness/hypnotic state.
    • A dependent and controlling relationship can be created between an NCCG leader and a recruit. This relationship, if it occurs, appears certain to be used to move the recruit toward a very deep level of involvement, especially if the recruit is female. Recruits in this position may be making life-altering decisions and commitments regarding NCCG. [A repetition of the previous supposedly “prevalent” pattern and the previous loaded words and the usual lack of evidence.]


    Some points about the nccg websites, and Warren's writing in particular, should be noted:

    • The website at www.nccg.org is currently one of the main sources for dissemination of information about NCCG to new recruits.
    • The websites http://groups.msn.com/deliverancefromdemonsreception and http://groups.msn.com/deliverancefromdemons have written material that discusses some of the secretive information about NCCG, and Warren is the administrator of the websites ("Community Moderator" in his posts). A general MSN group website is http://groups.msn.com/NCCGCyberCommunity . There are additional groups.msn.com boards for even deeper-involved members.
    • Warren is the author of virtually all of the material on the nccg.org website, and he is an extremely prolific writer. The phrase "compulsive writer" comes to mind after noting Warren's writing habits and volume as noted throughout NCCG's history. [Are journalists compulsive writers too? They sure write more than C.C. Warren in a week. This is how DSM-IV defines “compulsion”:
      • repetitive behaviors (e.g., hand washing, ordering, checking) or mental acts (e.g., praying, counting, repeating words silently) that the person feels driven to perform in response to an obsession, or according to rules that must be applied rigidly
      • the behaviors or mental acts are aimed at preventing or reducing distress or preventing some dreaded event or situation; however, these behaviors or mental acts either are not connected in a realistic way with what they are designed to neutralize or prevent or are clearly excessive

    Can the nccg_concern author diagnose a person with a compulsion or was just that a random phrase that “came to mind”? If he can, what is his evidence? Under what authority? If it was random, which in all probability was, does nccg_concern have perhaps a habit of writing down his random thoughts and whatever “comes to mind”? Judging from the material here, it may well be so.]

    • This website contains a huge volume of Warren's writings, and as a result of the sheer volume of material provided, the information is difficult to absorb in a comprehensive, organized way. Further complicating the task, some of this material is contradictory, even within the same piece of writing. The phrase "information overload" comes to mind as a description of what it was like to investigate this written source material in my research. [How sad that this author can’t absorb it. So many people claim to have done so – I myself had no problem keeping up. Maybe he should read a little slower, take small breaks, or keep notes, have some water… Just friendly advice. The word “immature” comes to mind as a description of the impression this writer gives to an adult with honest concerns about NCCG. The fact that he’s unaware of how many books resemble the Bible in appearance, and his testified difficulty with absorbing large quantities of information in an organised way says it all. University students, whatever they may study, but especially those who do research, are required to read volumes, and no one complains.]
    • Some of Warren's self-contradictory writings are in regard to the more radical beliefs of NCCG, such as demonically-induced sickness. It may be possible that these contradictions have been included deliberately, so that when confronted about the radical beliefs, Warren has the choice of denying or affirming either position, depending upon the audience. In effect, the extreme volume of writing plus the contradictions mean that it may not be possible to state conclusions about NCCG from the perspective of an outsider without Warren being able, at least superficially, to explain away the conclusions to group members or others. [The NCCG main webpage has been out of date for the last year. Beliefs and practices are bound to have evolved and in retrospect contradict each other. The best way to handle a seeming "contradiction", obviously, is to make an effort to understand than condemn the material altogether. Yet consider that this webpage contains no more than 8 articles (minutes the ones where the author replies to C.C. Warren’s statements) and there are MANY contradictions, not only with his own writings but also with common sense itself. The phrase “hunting ghosts” comes to mind considering that the writer suggests the possibility that even the contradictions are deliberate. Maybe C.C. Warren has some super-ingenious mind that carefully plants contradictions. Or maybe if the author of this website was a tad more skilled at absorbing information, he would have spotted fewer “contradictions” and be less puzzled.]

    [Clearly, a disappointing overview. Something rather impressive that I found in the letter that nccg_concern wrote to Derek Rumpler:

    “The whole concept of WORDS is that they have a meaning in people's minds, and communicate an understanding -- throwing "probably" here and there throughout the text in a way that allows a false expectation in the minds of the majority of the readers would not excuse those false understandings due to an alternate linguistic interpretation.”

    The author of this statement is the author of the website I am criticising – the same person whose writings swarm with “may” and “seems” and other expressions that indicate probability. What he says in the above statement is that words are so powerful that even if you add a “probably” next to them, the statement you make continues to remain valid, even if “probably” suggests that there is a significant chance that it may be false. What a wise observation.

    Now in this overview, to sum up, we have a whole series of pretty heavy accusations, loaded words and many hints that the NCCG leader is a controlling pervert, none of which has been escorted with proof, but nearly all of which is hand in hand with a “probably, maybe, seems to”. I wanted to suggest earlier that this is propaganda, but refrained wondering if this word is perhaps too strong. Now I find that nccg_concern has seen to characterising this sort of writing as propaganda already.]

     

    P.S. I have brought the Catholic Church as an example more than once in this article. I would like to make clear that I have nothing against the Catholic Church. The purposes I mentioned it were purely to show that some of the practices that are implied to be “dangerous” or “cultic” in this article are actually common practices taken out of context and pointed at to create this illusionary effect. Where the Catholic Church was brought as an example it was to show that millions of people perform the same practice as mentioned by the author, but these are not frowned upon by public opinion nor considered as the fruits of malevolent disposition.

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