NCCG_CONCERN - phoney cult-watcher: Overview

I made a couple of notes of the things that impressed me in the analysis on false prophets (the one in the left-hand column). It’s just that people who have read a sermon or two don’t write this way. My comments in green.

"But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death." You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him. (Deut 18:20-22) NIV

· The use of the word "or" means that the first part (" who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say") is all that is necessary for the person to be known as a False Prophet.

· The Hebrew translated as "presumptuously" comes from the "pride" notion, which is a grevious sin.

· "Do not be afraid of him" means "Take him away and do what I say." in this context. [Eh… no. It means “do not be afraid of him”. One could, I suppose take it a little deeper and say that it means not to pay heed to his “hellfire and damnation” preaching or whatever he tries to impose on you, but “take him away and do as I say”??? Where did that come from? Is this how nccg_concern understands his Bible? Like “Oh, in this context, the word blue actually means yellow.”?]

Choosing to stick with a False Teacher means that you, or parts of your life, could be destroyed by your cooperation with his heresies. The end result may be that you end up in Hell. [Again, where did that come from? Even if someone IS tricked by a false prophet, the Bible says that God winks at people’s ignorance (Acts 17:30). He won’t condemn people who have been honestly deceived. BUT, if someone like nccg_concern, comes in and pretends to interpret the Bible, by preaching SEPARATION among men (the EXACT opposite of what God wants) and excommunication, threatening with hellfire and damnation if this does not happen, I think this person should consider very well where he’s going if he believes in a God that will judge him.]

A requirement for extremely precise language that identifies each and every word that came from God does not work with this definition. It would mean that False Prophets who are careful, tricky, or perhaps demonic enough could not be identified by the specific False Prophet Fruit indicated next. Only dumb or completely crazy ones would be identifiable by this fruit, which would contradict Matthew 7:16. [Apparently, false prophets are separated in two categories: 1 -> “Super-intelligent wicked serpents” OR 2 -> “dumb and completely crazy”. I guess if a false prophet comes along your way and you recognise him easily, you can just tell him he’s dumb and completely crazy.]

Thirdly,
God would have to be STUPID
to allow a loophole this big
to exist regarding how to identify False Prophets.
[That just proves just how religious nccg_concern is. This is something a religious person would NEVER say: “God would have to be STUPID”. It’s impressive that he doesn’t even know that such an argument would have little effect on a person who fears God. No one thinks or considers things this way, at least no one that I have observed until I saw this.]

From Jer 28: “So Hananiah, who had said these things in God's name, died in the seventh month of the same year.”
Nccg_concern’s comment: Hananiah manages to die that July, and it wasn't because Jeremiah offed him.

[No, he died in about September-October. The Hebrew calendar goes by the moon and the years begin in springtime according to the barley harvest. If nccg_concern had REALLY read a lot of stuff in the NCCG website, he would have come across that. It’s pretty obvious that this person knows very little about the Bible, but he has written material the size of a book (about 70 pages in all, when converted to MS Word documents) about prophecy and what is and what isn’t right about it and instructions as to what action to take in each occasion. I haven’t even seen pastors do that, let alone anonymous people without credentials and very little knowledge of theological matters.]

A False Prophet who gets people around him to help him pick what to say,

and replaces "I" with "We" in his spoken prediction
does not change WHO SPOKE the words, and
does NOT change WHO ANNOUNCED the prediction,

would not automatically make the people who helped him pick the words into False Prophets too. All it would mean is that this person was not only a False Prophet, but also a manipulator of people's feelings an allegiances. [It wouldn’t make them false prophets? But didn’t they prophesise too? Is this trying to sugar the pill for the NCCG members who have received prophecies? Because MANY of them have, as far as I know. NCCG actually expects every believer to prophesise according to biblical information (more on D. Rumpler’s article). Well, as I understand it, whether or not you are the one who outs it to the public, if you’ve made a false prophecy, then you’ve made a false prophecy. A great deal of the prophecies that C.C. Warren announces were made by members. Nccg_concern should have been (1) better informed and (2) less of a respecter of persons.]

The next page contains one of Christopher C. Warren's
biggest False Prophecies of his lifetime,
exactly the way he wrote and published it.

[Chorus:]
This False Prophecy was issued in 1998, and
due to a stroke of luck (or divine intervention),
it's existence as he published it on the internet
was recorded on www.archive.org.
Most of the web site was not saved, but this page was.

Chris may have tried to pretend that it wasn't technically a prophecy
because he didn't specify which words were his own
as opposed with which were God's.
He's tried to come up with other excuses for it.
None of them are any good. It is what it is.

[He apologised publicly for it. At least he had the guts to do that. Will nccg_concern EVER consider a public apology if all the work to defame that he has done in this website was proven to be unfair and undeserved?]